Rondae Jefferson Self Alley-Oop Dunk off Backboard January 1st, 2013 8:04 am Here’s the lob off the backboard, self-alley-oop dunk by Arizona-bound Rondae Jefferson that made No. 2 on SportsCenter’s Top 10 on New Year’s Day. Follow Adam Zagoria on Twitter And like ZAGS on Facebook Like this:Like Loading... 235 comments   Get Livefyre FAQ Sign in + Follow Post comment Link Newest | Oldest Jon Berger 5pts If we are talking about the Jets offensive playbook... so what it was horrible for the last 3 or 4 seasons. Anyway new offense look. I see Super bowl in Jets future. J-E-T-S !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! marcus81 5pts Foxboro 2010 Jets greatest victory since SB 69' I don't think that playbook conspiracy is true Bent moderator 5pts Couple of thoughts on this, if anyone still cares...It's not hard to get a copy of some version of the Jets playbook. I was offered one at one point ... although I would NEVER use it to help me write a BGA for fear of releasing trade secrets. I'd study the crap out of it though and use that to inform the accuracy of my analysis where possible.What we do know, however, is that the Jets don't release all of the playbook to everyone. If you make the team, you get a much bigger version and even then there are parts which are added game-by-game which are gameplan specific. They also alter terminology at times.I bet what Saban got was essentially Cliff Notes. Mike DeRosa 5pts I am sure that the Browns also have the playbook now too, right? Surprise! Pablo Bruno 5pts Well there you have it the Patriots have your'e playbook Rex, Rex: " It ticks me off you insinuate Bill accomplished are being diminished by having this unfair advantage" , WTF, no Rex it should piss you off that he has your playbook. a57se 5pts OK...I am really effin bored so GOT trivia time!What is Hodor's name? jdawggg 5pts Interesting but unsurprising that in the story on Pettine where this Playbookgate come from, Pettine mentions several times things he picked up from Rex, or things that Rex did well. That's ignored in order to create this perception of a bitter feud.For example:"The final part of the puzzle is to have the entire defense in the meeting room together. It’s few and far between when positions break up, go to their own room and worry about themselves, like most teams operate.“I thought that was one thing that Rex did real well. He kind of tied in the whole room,” Pettine says. “After a while, he’d ask a defensive lineman a question about the cornerback’s technique to see if the guy had been paying attention. It’d be funny to see how much guys would recall in situations like that. Learn the defense as a whole and you execute as one cohesive unit.”Overall the article is well worth reading, for more than this playbook nonsense. bob 5pts Belichick called me up da little dog and he say he wanted to take for me out and buy me a prime rib dinner ..I say Oh ya dats good I be right der. He ask me about the play book.. I say I cant talk about da dis way or dat way play cause I like Rex and I dont want him to be mad at me ok..sorry Bill. He say thats ok and get me some more prime rib.. davem 5pts Bye England. (sorry Bent) Suarez is just en fuego these days Bent moderator 5pts Also, I wanted to say that Rex's response was pretty good. The right balance of diffusing the controversy, showing respect to Belichick and chastising Pettine for being disrespectful. marcus81 5pts @Pablo Bruno Rex actually said the right thing, BB can't use it as motivation for his team Bent moderator 5pts @a57se Hodor? tsjc68 5pts @jdawggg The final part of the puzzle is to have the entire defense in the meeting room together. It’s few and far between when positions break up, go to their own room and worry about themselves, like most teams operate. “I thought that was one thing that Rex did real well. He kind of tied in the whole room.” I wonder if Marty is doing this with the offense now. Or if he should be. Intuitively, it seems like something everyone should be doing (although you could counterargue that it leads to less focus on each unit mastering their particular tradecraft, I suppose).I'm also curious to see which Jets defenders aced Rex's pop quiz about the positional groups that weren't theirs and which ones failed. (Not that we're ever likely to find out from anyone). a57se 5pts @jdawggg you would not get many page views highlighting that section... tsjc68 5pts @bob Everyone's always trying to decipher the secret of "da dis way or dat way" play. They're always after your Lucky Charms.TAKE IT TO THE GRAVE, BOB. TAKE IT TO THE GRAVE. a57se 5pts @jake100 Who the F told you how to do this????? levi 5pts @jake100 Whats my name?!?!?!?! Brendan 5pts @jake100 Since Joey had a seizure instead of just posting the link....http://www.ganggreennation.com/2014/6/19/5825068/rex-ryan-lays-waste-to-mike-pettineVIVA LA REX tsjc68 5pts @davem At this point I want France to lose too, just to see Spain, England, and France all eliminated before the knock-out phase. a57se 5pts @davem Is England being spanked? Brendan 5pts @Bent Yeah, really thought Rex handled that well. Good for him, but man...I wish they were playing this year. Mike DeRosa 5pts @marcus81 @Pablo Bruno Agreed. Last thing Rex needs/wants to do is to let Satan post the article in the locker room going "They think you didn't deserve to win"Now, to be fair, pretty much all of the team from that year is gone, haha. Brendan 5pts @Bent Can I answer these? I'll guess every one. a57se 5pts @DarrolRayFanClub @jdawggg Oh, you didn't tell your wife that did you???Doghouse for a LONG TIME!!! a57se 5pts @tsjc68 @davem Yeah, let's get rid of all those Western Civilization teams, we want an all Third World knockout round! Brendan 5pts @a57se No, they lost two matches 2-1 to two very good teams (assuming they don't come back in this one). davem 5pts They tied it up but Suarez scored again minutes later. It's not over but the fat lady is warming up Bent moderator 5pts @Brendan @Bent Just be careful there are no spoilers! a57se 5pts @jake100 @a57se MORON! tsjc68 5pts @a57se @tsjc68 @davem Well, except for Germany and the Netherlands and Belgium. jaym 5pts @Brendan Colon leadoff double http://web.sny.tv/media/video.jsp?content_id=33834145&topic_id=6479520 a57se 5pts @jake100 @a57se Because I am so effin bored? Brendan 5pts @Bent Well, the answer is Walder. No one knows why he only says "Hodor." And it's not a spoiler because no one knows where the name comes from (people think he's a long-lost Frey or something, but there's literally nothing besides the name Walder that supports that theory). tsjc68 5pts @Bent @Brendan Bent, I don't want to ruin this for you, but...... Jesus dies at the end of The Passion Of The Christ. Brendan 5pts @a57se Okay, how's about you chill a bit. Brendan 5pts @tsjc68 *stares at tsjc intensely* And..... a57se 5pts @tsjc68 @a57se @davem You want the Aryna nations to make it?? Brendan 5pts @jaym Deadspin had an entire post about it (they, like most baseball fans, find Fartolo to be endlessly entertaining). a57se 5pts @Hanknaples @Brendan OK, Where is puppet face? Brendan 5pts @Hanknaples Okay? I don't even know what this is in reference to. a57se 5pts @Brendan @Bent Appropriately, Brendan gets it CORRECT!!!More trivia tomorrow! Tequila Joe 5pts @tsjc68 TSJC, Maybe you should have used a different example other than Jesus. It was impudent to say the least... Bent moderator 5pts @tsjc68 @Bent @Brendan YOU BASTARD!http://deadspin.com/5966609/kobe-says-many-lakers-were-surprised-when-abe-lincoln-died-at-the-end-of-lincoln-update a57se 5pts @Brendan @a57se Oh relax....just kidding.But really, HOW COULD YOU SHOW HIM THIS??? davem 5pts All of England must feel so Forlan tsjc68 5pts @a57se @tsjc68 @davem I was actually rooting for England and France to make it.Just like the poetry of England/France/Spain all not making it. tsjc68 5pts @Brendan @jaym I miss Bartday. His stay in pinstripes was too brief. He's so much fun. a57se 5pts @Hanknaples @Brendan Haha...there he is! tsjc68 5pts @Brendan @Hanknaples It's Hank. a57se 5pts @jake100 @a57se How about Tanaka?He has been amazing!11-1 with and ERA of 1.99... Brendan 5pts @a57se He did it fine before, now he's expanding tweets and doesn't realize that screws everything up. tsjc68 5pts @davem Well played, davem. Well played. tsjc68 5pts @Hanknaples @Brendan You're right, they're only the 7th and 9th best countries in the world, that's all. tsjc68 5pts @a57se @jake100 I can't wait for Pineda to get back so we can reunite the Young Guns™. Bent moderator 5pts @tsjc68 @Hanknaples @Brendan It's not over.If...Italy beats Costa Rica (probable)Italy beats Uruguay (likely)England beats Costa Rica (possible)Then Italy will have 9 points, England, Uruguay and Costa Rica will have 3 points. If the England win or the Uruguay loss are by 2 goals, that puts England through!!!!(It was over before it started). Brendan 5pts @tsjc68 Dammit, you beat me to it. Brendan 5pts @tsjc68 Wait, Pineda is still a thing? a57se 5pts @tsjc68 @a57se You mean Mr. Greaseball?I'd rather trade the cheater for a bucket of BP Balls. tsjc68 5pts @Bent @tsjc68 @Hanknaples @Brendan There's that British stiff-upper-lip. Brendan 5pts @Hanknaples http://www.fifa.com/worldranking/rankingtable/ BDarc23 5pts @Brendan @tsjc68 Easy there Mets boy tsjc68 5pts @a57se @tsjc68 Yes, because what he did was clearly cheating.Sincerely,Nobody in baseball Bent moderator 5pts @tsjc68 @Bent @Hanknaples @Brendan Herm made the playoffs with the Chiefs with a less-rosy outlook than this. Brendan 5pts @BDarc23 Oh, what's the worst you can say to me? Mets suck? Because I'll offer that up myself for free. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 @a57se Yeah, that's right...MLB always suspends people for doing nothing wrong...silly me! tsjc68 5pts @Bent @tsjc68 @Hanknaples @Brendan Clearly, England should hire Herm Edwards.Tonight. BDarc23 5pts @Hanknaples @Brendan lol Brendan 5pts @Hanknaples It is FIFA's official website. FIFA is the governing body of soccer on the planet earth. a57se 5pts @Brendan @BDarc23 The Yanks aren't much better right now. tsjc68 5pts @a57se @tsjc68 That whole crap was nothing but silly gamesmanship over "unwritten rules". Unwritten rules are B.S. And Pineda wasn't throwing "greaseballs", that would be ACTUAL cheating. He used pine tar for grip. Every team has pitchers who use pine tar for grip (including the Red Sox who flagged him for it). It's not cheating, it doesn't help you throw a ball better. Bent moderator 5pts @tsjc68 @Bent @Hanknaples @Brendan I thought we already established he's a lousy football coach. tsjc68 5pts @BDarc23 @Hanknaples @Brendan NO, BDARC, IT'S JUST STATS. WE'RE JUST BEING STATS-MEN AGAIN. Brendan 5pts @a57se The season highlight of the Mets this year is Bartolo Colon hitting a double and then scoring on a single. Yes, the Yanks are much better right now. BDarc23 5pts @a57se @Brendan @BDarc23 The Yankees are 2.5 games out of 1st and the first place team is a disaster this month. tsjc68 5pts @a57se @Brendan @BDarc23 The Yanks aren't much better [than the Mets] right now. (peruses standings)Yes they are. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 @a57se So Pineda was suspended for no apparent reason?Is that what you are saying? a57se 5pts @tsjc68 @a57se you ever pitch? I have. a57se 5pts @Hanknaples @Brendan Hey Hank, I watched the end of the Colombia-Cote D'Ivoire match at lunch time.You are rooting for the Colombians, I assume? Brendan 5pts @Hanknaples I'd actually say it's more corrupt than the IOC, but that's besides the point. You were saying Uruguay and Italy aren't good teams, they're both top-10. Uruguay sports one of the 5 best players on the planet right now in Suarez. Italy is consistently one of the top teams in the world. Not sure what your argument is. tsjc68 5pts @Hanknaples @Brendan That's absolutely true.And even though FIFA is a bunch of grabastic maggots, Uruguay and Italy are still two of the best national teams in the world. a57se 5pts @Brendan @a57se Ironically, the Mets are -12 run differential while the Yankees are -21... a57se 5pts @BDarc23 @a57se @Brendan The Yanks are a handful of games over 500 and the Mets are a handful or more under. A little winning streak by the Mets and four days of anyone but Tanaka pitching and they are close again like they've been all season. tsjc68 5pts @a57se @tsjc68 He was suspended for using pine tar, a substance pitchers are not allowed to use.Plenty of pitchers use pine tar on a regular basis and most teams never ask for them to be suspended, because they all know it's not really "doctoring" the ball to gain an advantage.He broke a rule. A rule that might end up being abolished at some point, since teams/players/managers all agree that it's not cheating (even if it is currently technically illegal). Brendan 5pts @a57se In reality Pineda was suspended for the lack of respect he showed for the unwritten rules. People do stuff, but you don't make it obvious. Pineda made it obvious, seemingly to try and dare the umpires to do something. If he hid it like a normal player, no suspension. tsjc68 5pts @a57se @tsjc68 Yes. Brendan 5pts @a57se The Mets have blown more leads than anyone in baseball, so that doesn't surprise me. tsjc68 5pts @a57se @BDarc23 @Brendan The Yankees are on a hot streak despite missing several members of the rotation who will be back in the second half and are within striking distance of the divisional lead, and you're saying "they're crap" AND you want to trade away a 25 year old fireballer who had a 1.83 ERA this April because he "cheated" even though literally NOBODY in the league actually thinks that using pine-tar to get a better grip on the ball is actually cheating (since pine tar does not create "greaseballs" that do funny things mid-flight).It's good to see that you're just as insane and irrational of a Yankee fan as you are a Jet fan.Ugh. BDarc23 5pts @a57se @BDarc23 @Brendan Sure 57. The Mets are 32-40. They are looking at next year. They have great young starting pitching but that is all. It's a great thing to build on though. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 @a57se Since when??? a57se 5pts @Brendan @a57se so you are saying normal players (pitchers) have pine tar smeared on the bodies in less obvious places to enhance their grips on the baseball? Brendan 5pts @Hanknaples Yeah, they killed him over it. a57se 5pts @Brendan @a57se and the Yankees get into streaks where they just can't score... a57se 5pts @tsjc68 @a57se @BDarc23 @Brendan Amazing how you like to change what people actually say to something that is ridiculous just to try and make yourself look good....sad actually.Try discussing what people actually say for a change. Brendan 5pts @BDarc23 I would interject here to mention David Wright, but he's batting about .140 for the month of June so....yeah. Young pitchers and a bucket of hope! tsjc68 5pts @a57se @tsjc68 Since when what?Since when do pitchers routinely use pine tar to get a grip? Since like forever.Since when was there a conversation about possibly changing the rules and making pine-tar more legal? It happened this year, right when Pineda was suspended. MLB.com and Baseball Tonight and all the talking heads were discussing it this very April, saying that Pineda would be (and should be) suspended for using pine tar but that liberalizing its use was a conversation that should be had, since it's not cheating like an emory board or vaseline. Brendan 5pts @a57se Not all of them, but some do. tsjc68 5pts @a57se @tsjc68 @BDarc23 @Brendan What you actually said:A.) Pineda is a cheater who throws greaseballs and I'd rather trade him for the rhetorical equivalent of "nothing" than keep him and have him pitch for the YankeesB.) The 37-33 and in playoff contention Yankees are no better than the 32-40 and in last place Mets, even though the Yankees have a better rotation, a better bullpen, and a better offense.I have not mischaracterized your positions at all. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 @a57se So a bunch of talking heads make the rules in baseball now?That's ludicrous.What Pineda did was illegal and he got thrown out of a game and suspended for it AFTER being warned the time before about it.That was just plain stupid. I have never liked cheaters and never will...... a57se 5pts @Hanknaples @Brendan I guess I can't say anything pejorative about that as I wouldn't be being culturally sensitive. Brendan 5pts @Hanknaples Yeah, it was all explained in gruesome detail in the 30 for 30 documentary "The Two Escobars." If you haven't seen that, I recommend you do. It's fantastically done. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 @a57se @BDarc23 @Brendan you still didn't get it right...how sad you truly are. you argue straw men all the time. tsjc68 5pts @a57se @tsjc68 So a bunch of talking heads make the rules in baseball now? That's ludicrous.No. A bunch of talking heads point out that some of the rules in baseball are pretty stupid and should be changed. Because a bunch of the rules in baseball are pretty stupid and should be changed.What Pineda did was illegal and he got thrown out of a game and suspended for it AFTER being warned the time before about it. That was just plain stupid.Agreed. Pineda broke a rule, and even if it's a dumb one, he should be suspended (and he was.)What makes no sense, though, is for a Yankee fan to take the stance of "I'm so upset at Michael Pineda for getting suspended for using pine tar that I want him cut from the team." That's an INSANE overreaction. Dude is 25 and throws murderous gas. Was getting suspended for pine-tar really stupid? Yeah.Is he a dirty cheater who should be run out of town on a rail? No, he's not. He broke a stupid unwritten rule and he's presumably learned his lesson, but he wasn't doping or roiding or scuffing the ball or doing anything dirty. He did something that tons of pitchers do without incident or rancor (because every sane person in baseball understands that it does NOT confer an actual advantage and unfairly tip the scales of justice). He's not Melky Cabrera or ARod. What he did is not remotely in that sphere.I have never liked cheaters and never will......Sounds great. Michael Pineda isn't a cheater, though, he's a rule-breaker. There's a difference. The reason Tony LaRussa didn't blow the whistle on Kenny Rogers using pine-tar IN THE FREAKING WORLD SERIES is because Tony LaRussa knows that "rule" is a dumb rule and that breaking that dumb rule does not constitute "cheating", which is why some of his pitchers also break that dumb rule. tsjc68 5pts @a57se @tsjc68 @BDarc23 @Brendan Then explain it to me, like I'm a child.Tell me how I should interpret You mean Mr. Greaseball?I'd rather trade the cheater for a bucket of BP Balls.other than to say that you're saying Pineda is cheating by doctoring the ball and you'd rather give him away for nothing than see him continue to pitch effectively for the team you purport to love and root for. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 @a57se You mean Mr. Greaseball?I'd rather trade the cheater for a bucket of BP Balls.Clearly Hyperbole meant to express my disgust with the guy for cheating. No one would take seriously the idea of trading a 25 year old pitcher for a bucket of batting Practice balls. But you keep acting like that is what I seriously meant if it makes you feel better! tsjc68 5pts @a57se @tsjc68 Amazing how you like to change what people actually say to something that is ridiculous just to try and make yourself look good...See, I didn't "change what you actually said to something that is ridiculous". THAT'S WHAT YOU ACTUALLY SAID, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY RIDICULOUS.If you're tired of people taking your hyperbolic statements literally, STOP BEING SO LITERALLY HYPERBOLIC ALL THE TIME. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 @a57se The second part was the part you changed and never represented properly...the first part you just didn't understand properly. tsjc68 5pts @a57se @tsjc68 No.I changed neither part.You called Pineda "Mr. Greaseball" and said you'd rather have a bag of balls than him, because he cheated.Are those statements hyperbolic? Yes. (Well, one of them is; calling him "Mr. Greaseball" is just incorrect, as pine tar is not grease that lubricates, it's an adhesive that decreases lubrication.)Did I change or exaggerate either of the clauses of your statement? No. I responded to them. Was I making your statements "more ridiculous" so that I could argue against strawman positions of them? No. Your statements were ALREADY ridiculous, and I responded to them as naturally constructed by you.If you're tired of people responding to your ridiculous statements with ridicule, stop making ridiculous statements. Calling a pitcher who used pine tar "Mr. Greaseball" is a ridiculous statement. Saying that a guy who used pine tar--a substance that does not alter the flight of the baseball and has been used by hundreds and hundreds of big league pitchers for decades and decades, none of whom are considered "cheaters" by the global sports community--is a "cheater" that you'd rather not have around is a ridiculous statement.Are they hyperbole? Sure. Hyperbole is, essentially, ridiculous. Hence, when you use hyperbolic statements your statements are, by nature, ridiculous. You have nobody to blame but yourself.