Anthony, Kidd Applaud Popovich Move

http://www.inflexwetrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/IFWT-Carmelo-Anthony1.jpgGREENBURGH, N.Y. — Count Carmelo Anthony and Jason Kidd among Gregg Popovich’s biggest fans.

Both Knicks said they applauded Popovich’s decision to let four of his top five scorers miss Thursday night’s San Antonio Spurs game at Miami, won by the Heat, 105-100.

“I thought it was great,” Kidd said Friday at shootaround prior to the Knicks 108-87 victory over the hapless Washington Wizards.

“That’s his team. He’s the coach of that team. He has every right to do what he feels right for the team. It’s an older team.”

Kidd said he and several teammates did “the same thing” when he was with the Dallas Mavericks, and it helped Dallas win the NBA championship in 2011.

“We took a week off before the playoffs, before we made the run and it helped us win the championship,” Kidd said. “So I think Pop has every right.”

He added: “It’s a long journey and the thing is to try to be the last team standing. And Pop has the hardware to show that it has worked for them. He has a great pulse on that team. They’ve been together for a long team, so I think he has every to do what he did.”

Anthony also loved Popovich’s decision.

“It was funny to me,” Anthony said. “I’m from the Western Conference so I know Pop and Pop does that all the time. There was a time he was fighting for a playoff spot and he sat all of them down. So it happens, but that’s between him and David Stern.”

Stern was enraged by the decision and prompted “substantial sanctions” aimed at the Spurs.

Asked if he would skip next Thursday’s game in Miami the way the Spurs stars did, Anthony smiled and said, “I’m pretty sure…I won’t miss that game.”

The Knicks are the NBA’s oldest team, but coach Mike Woodson isn’t likely to do anything similar with his players.

“Absolutely not, no comment,” Woodson said.

Asked if he understood the logic, Woodson said, “I can’t question nothing. Pop has had a helluva career and that’s his team. They do what they gotta do over there. I gotta worry about what we’re doing here in New York.”

KIDD, STOUDEMIRE UPDATES

Kidd has missed two games with back spasms but is targeting a return for next week’s three-game road trip beginning Wednesday in Charlotte.

“I hope so,’’ Kidd said. “That’s the plan — to get me back out there sometime next week. I feel great. A lot better as the week’s gone on. That’s the goal is to be 100 percent when you come back. No need to rush. Today was a great day working out. We’ll see how I feel tomorrow.”

Kidd said an MRI on his back revealed “nothing.” He is expected to miss tonight’s game and Sunday’s against the Phoenix Suns at MSG. Woodson said he would start Kurt Thomas tonight in Kidd’s place.

“He’ll be back in the next couple days,” Anthony said. “I’m pretty sure he will be. I don’t think it’s anything too serious.”

Kidd said he was disappointed to miss Monday’s historic game against his old team, the Nets, in Brooklyn, a game the Nets won in OT.

“It was tough because the guys played well,” he said. “We had an opportunity to win the game on the road. It was tough to watch. But it was a lesson learned from everybody.’’

As for Amar’e Stoudemire, who has not played this season with a ruptured left popliteal cyst, he ran on the court and did some other stretches Thursday.

He is expected back sometime around Christmas.

“I know 6-8 weeks was dangling out there,” Woodson said. “We’re going to accept Amar’e back when he’s ready to go. When that is, I don’t know. I really don’t.”

Asked if it was a good sign that Stoudemire was running, Woodson said, “That’s a great sign, he’s out running and he’s shooting a little bit. So we’re just going to gauge it as he goes along and the doctors and Amar’e will tell us when he’s ready.”

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127 comments
Monty
Monty

god bless you

dabronx
dabronx

I like Attaochu, but he doesn't look elite on film. Not crazy about him. Who I wouldn't mind in the second round is Kyle Van Noy. Dude is a beast on tape and had good measurables. Would of been a top 20 pick last year if he opted for the NFL.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2tL4xUZP_8

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

Can't help but fantasize about Attaochu coming to the Jets.   I really like this guy, his moves, motor, great attitude, everything.   Imagine him learning under Rex, being mentored by Pace, and bookended with Coples...or...on certain downs...on the same side!   


This is how you compensate for any questions/uncertainties you may have about the evolving secondary.   Add Attaochu to the mix and you really do let the monsters out of their boxes. 


Trouble is you may need to get him early, probably second round.   Too much buzz about this guy...he's not making it to our third pick.  

Wilkershakes
Wilkershakes

What are some recommended site for pre-draft scouting reports?  

Marvel
Marvel

our first round pick will be decided after the Cooks /obj visits, I'm sure of it.



Honestly if it's even on talent, I think Cooks wins post visits. Just a gut feeling.


Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@dabronx  


I think Attaochu's in same class as Van Noy, and possibly a better fit for Rex.  He's like Ansah in the sense he's relatively new to the game...so what you see is just the tip of the iceberg.    


I'd be delighted with either of those guys, frankly.  If we can't snag them then I think Demarcus Lawrence, DE out of Boise St. can be had in the third round, and would also be a potential force of nature at OLB down the line.   

WW85
WW85

@Marvel  Honestly, I think Idzik will go Cb @ 18, unless they get blown away by the visit or if all the CBs are gone. Just looking at Seattle drafts. Doesnt seem that WR is high there.  Hope I'm wrong

Pat d
Pat d

I like Cooks but Lee is the better WR

juunit
juunit

@a57se  

Doubtful. He doesn't seem to fit the mantra of high character guys. 

Pat d
Pat d

57

I have to agree

Marvel
Marvel

@a57se  

wtf.


How long have you thought about this?


dabronx
dabronx

@Hazard2012 @dabronx 

I would be ecstatic if we picked up Van Noy but I think your right - I don't think he is the best scheme fit. 

dabronx
dabronx

@a57se @dabronx 

Agree..  but it also meant that teams didn't run to his side as often and double/triple teamed him. 

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@a57se @Hazard2012  


Which is the main reason I'm a fan of moving down, maybe more than once, to the four or five teams right behind us, if they're willing to part with a 2nd or 3rd round pick.   The way I see it that's the only way we can grab that extra top player of two while still getting our top targets.

Pat d
Pat d

If Dennard or Gilbert is there at 18 a CB would be okay. More likely the Jets go safety if Pryor is there at 18.

WW85
WW85

@Pat d  What's up with Lee's 40 time: 4.52 & his refusal to run it again on his pro day?  Is his knee not 100% yet?  I wonder if they will clock him again on his visit days

bobbyj
bobbyj

Why do people want a receiver in the 1st rd when so many people say it's a deep WR draft, combined w/the fact that we have so many needs? I've only glanced at a few, but they are showing a ton of Olineman in the first rd. if a real good one slips, wouldn't we be better served there

gbrownn
gbrownn

I like Cooks and Lee(in the 2nd round) but ODB is the better
WR

Marvel
Marvel

@Pat d  

that we draft Hill in the second round?

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@a57se @Hazard2012  


Just using those two examples.  It could be anyone between Miami and say Carolina at 28. I'm sure they'll be lots of trades in this draft...question is by whom for what.   I'd just be receptive to any offers that came our way.   

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@a57se @Hazard2012  


They might if they thought we or another team in front of them might take the top player on their board!    


I think it depends on how the board shakes out, but I'm just saying I'd move down under the right circumstances to increase the number of picks I have in the first 2-3 rounds.   

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@a57se @Hazard2012  


Very true...takes two to tango...but I think (and hope) that the right players will fall to entice Mia, Ariz, GB, KC, Cinn and SD to part with one of those precious picks so they can land the top player on their board.   


Not impossible, and in fact may be more than possible, even likely, that at least one of these teams would be willing to make a move. 


Two things, though.   We have to get 2nd or at least 3rd rounders to move, and we also have to be almost guaranteed a player we covet will still be on the board after the trade down.       

Pat d
Pat d

Benjamin is not a good fit for the Jets.

Bent
Bent moderator

@gbrownn  I meant nitpicking flaws in his game.  I just wonder if teams know more than the so-called experts about how to assess a guy's potential.

bklyndude
bklyndude

@gbrownn

I agree he is an interesting prospect and may turn out to be a good player in the NFL,  but why take a chance on this type of guy who supposedly blew off a workout and needs to get into better shape.

gbrownn
gbrownn

@Bent  "Picking holes" as in against zone coverage? Or "picking holes" in Benjamins game? Are you saying there some smokescreens going around about his level of interest in league circles? I think somebody has it in their mind to trade back into the 1st if Benjamin is still there.  Theres got to be one team willing to take this freak in  the first

gbrownn
gbrownn

Alshon Jeffrey was told that. But i dont see the point your trying to make. It actaully does happen often. Teams say  "We like you as a prospect but we think if you lost or gained x amount of pounds we like you at this position"

bklyndude
bklyndude

@gbrownn

When you are about to get drafted into the NFL,  you shouldn't have to be told you need to lose weight and get into better shape.

Bent
Bent moderator

@gbrownn  I heard teams saying good things about him and "experts" picking holes.  Hmmm...

gbrownn
gbrownn

I want him. I think he's a lot more polished then people give him credit for. He's never going to get separation like a Brandin Cooks or ODB, but he doesn't need to, his size alone pretty much means he "always open". Such a mismatch. The Stephen Hill miss has scared alot of us on taking Big "project" Wrs. Even though I don't think Benjamin is half the project Hill is.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent  Except Kelvin Benjamin!  Nobody wants him.  I feel a little sorry for him.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent @Wilkershakes  


Exactly!  I tend to find TJB gives me reports on all the guys we think the Jets like and that they give a good representation of everyone's views on the subject.  That's what I want!


I may be somewhat biased.

Pat d
Pat d

Like I have said before the knee is the concern not the 40 time.

psi1
psi1

I like Moncrief in R2 if they go defense or TE in R1.

Pat d
Pat d

Hazard

There is no way Robinson is better than Lee. Robinson has average speed and isn't a very good route runner. Lee has explosive speed and is the best route runner in this draft.

On top of that Lee is a better fit.

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@a57se @Hazard2012  


I think it's more a case of him getting more physical and using his size more effectively, and less a case of suspect hands.   But I'd take a chance on this guy in a second.   

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@a57se @Hazard2012 @bobbyj  


Robinson might be a tweener.  I actually like him more than Lee, but then I'm not exactly a Lee proponent, period.    


Moncrief is the guy I think will be the absolute steal in the entire WR class...fluid, good routes, strong, great hands, 6'3" and runs a 4.40 with something like a 40" vert.     

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@bobbyj  


It might be more a case of wanting a particular WR, from the top tier of them, rather than 'settle' for second or third tier talent.   In all likelihood, Watkins, Evans, Cooks, Beckham and Lee all go off the board by end of the first round, and although there's still talent in the tier right behind them, it may not be as dynamic or proven as the top five guys.  


That's what's driving the 'get a WR first' sentiment.   But one can say similar things about almost all positions.   So if you really want one of these guys you're probably going to have to do it by round three...and possibly two.   That's true for OL, too.     

psi1
psi1

Since none of us knows for sure, I'm saying the Jets will likely pick one of Cooks, OBJ or Denard in R1.

psi1
psi1

Keep Lee; I'm asking for Cooks then OBJ.

Pat d
Pat d

I like all 3 WRs at 18. But Lee is the best fit for the Jets.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent  I don't mind you asking, but I'm keeping that under wraps.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent  We do get some baseball here, on cable.  I don't pay for MLB.tv but they have a free game every day, which is often the Mets too.


I do have audio league pass or whatever it's called, so I actually listen to most of the Mets games on the radio while I work.

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@a57se @Brendan @Marvel  What a joke that whole thing was keeping 10 O-linemen.At least two of them Oboushi & Campbell should have been on the practice squad as if they were so bad they couldn't be activated in spite of Winters dismal performance I'm thinking they must be pretty bad?

As I haven't rad anything anywhere saying anything to the contrary i think its assumption that that is in fact the case.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @bobbyj  


I think he's referring to why Gee's start was cut short.

bobbyj
bobbyj

He got hit by a ball

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se  Before you focus on the typo: I obviously meant Ware in the 6th for Seattle, not Michael. 

Brendan
Brendan

@bobbyj  If by "that blog" you mean Metsblog.com, that's your own fault. That place is awful. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Nope, not letting you out of this one. 


I asked you why you want to throw RB's at the wall until one sticks with Ivory/CJ. You said depth. Fine. I said I think it's unnecessary with so many good NFL-caliber RB's available. You replied by saying "well, look at what these good teams did!" without any context. Like drafting Eddie Lacy in the 2nd round to be a feature back and drafting Christine Michael in the 6th to be on the PS the entire season are one and the same. 


You didn't answer my question, hence me continuing to ask about it. What did  your list of RB's drafted by good teams imply? That only good teams draft RB's? That to be a good team you need to draft RB's? What was the purpose of that list? 

bobbyj
bobbyj

First off I'm a huge Met fan & that's all I read on that blog, secondly Powell has made huge steps since being drafted, who really thought he was gonna stick on our roster? I didn't. Here's the problem, it's impossible to say w/any degree of accuracy how much more Powell could grow. If he sustains the same growth rate as he has had, he could be very good. Don't be in such a rush to predict the future

juunit
juunit

@bobbyj  

Well, except Gee can only pitch through the order two times. So really he should be in the pen. I mean he got pulled yesterday while pitching a shutout after only throwing 70 something pitches. 

Brendan
Brendan

@bobbyj  As a Mets fan, can you please stop using Mets fans as if they're some collective of irrational fans? 


People don't want Powell because, unlike Gee who is quite good, Powell doesn't have any above-average abilities, just a bunch of average-to-below-average ones. 

bobbyj
bobbyj

Why cut Powell? You guys are nuts, it's like listening to Met fans talking about trading Dillion Gee, because he doesn't throw 98mph, so what, fact is Gee is a winner who is continuing to grow. In Powell I see a underrated back who is progressing nicely, so let's sit him for a RB who by all accounts is heading in the wrong direction...

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se You listed a varying range of RB draft selections to prove your point about what "sustainable teams' do and I would like you to explain what point you're making since the Jets do a similar thing themselves (Griffin was a FA who had never played in a game, so basically a rookie anyway, but yes I misspoke if that's the victory you're looking for). 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se The Jets drafted Powell. Or Griffin. Or Gannaway. 


What is your point, exactly? 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Where we differ is you think a stopgap's replacement must be in-hand while the stopgap is on the team. I don't think that's necessary, especially at a position like RB. 


That is not a position where you need to hoard talent since there is a saturation of the market for NFL-capable RB's. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Marvel Yesterday people thought 4 RB's were a stretch, now we're talking about keeping 5? 

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@a57se @Marvel  I don't know why you keep referencing Goodson because I just cant see him on the jets this season. Even if he avoids the gray-bar hotel i just don't think there's room at the inn for him unless we dump Powell?

Pat d
Pat d

57 never said anything about carrying 6 RBs

Marvel
Marvel

@a57se

 you're scaring me...you wanna carry 6 RBs?  one of which will cost a 2nd round pick?