Anthony, Kidd Applaud Popovich Move

http://www.inflexwetrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/IFWT-Carmelo-Anthony1.jpgGREENBURGH, N.Y. — Count Carmelo Anthony and Jason Kidd among Gregg Popovich’s biggest fans.

Both Knicks said they applauded Popovich’s decision to let four of his top five scorers miss Thursday night’s San Antonio Spurs game at Miami, won by the Heat, 105-100.

“I thought it was great,” Kidd said Friday at shootaround prior to the Knicks 108-87 victory over the hapless Washington Wizards.

“That’s his team. He’s the coach of that team. He has every right to do what he feels right for the team. It’s an older team.”

Kidd said he and several teammates did “the same thing” when he was with the Dallas Mavericks, and it helped Dallas win the NBA championship in 2011.

“We took a week off before the playoffs, before we made the run and it helped us win the championship,” Kidd said. “So I think Pop has every right.”

He added: “It’s a long journey and the thing is to try to be the last team standing. And Pop has the hardware to show that it has worked for them. He has a great pulse on that team. They’ve been together for a long team, so I think he has every to do what he did.”

Anthony also loved Popovich’s decision.

“It was funny to me,” Anthony said. “I’m from the Western Conference so I know Pop and Pop does that all the time. There was a time he was fighting for a playoff spot and he sat all of them down. So it happens, but that’s between him and David Stern.”

Stern was enraged by the decision and prompted “substantial sanctions” aimed at the Spurs.

Asked if he would skip next Thursday’s game in Miami the way the Spurs stars did, Anthony smiled and said, “I’m pretty sure…I won’t miss that game.”

The Knicks are the NBA’s oldest team, but coach Mike Woodson isn’t likely to do anything similar with his players.

“Absolutely not, no comment,” Woodson said.

Asked if he understood the logic, Woodson said, “I can’t question nothing. Pop has had a helluva career and that’s his team. They do what they gotta do over there. I gotta worry about what we’re doing here in New York.”

KIDD, STOUDEMIRE UPDATES

Kidd has missed two games with back spasms but is targeting a return for next week’s three-game road trip beginning Wednesday in Charlotte.

“I hope so,’’ Kidd said. “That’s the plan — to get me back out there sometime next week. I feel great. A lot better as the week’s gone on. That’s the goal is to be 100 percent when you come back. No need to rush. Today was a great day working out. We’ll see how I feel tomorrow.”

Kidd said an MRI on his back revealed “nothing.” He is expected to miss tonight’s game and Sunday’s against the Phoenix Suns at MSG. Woodson said he would start Kurt Thomas tonight in Kidd’s place.

“He’ll be back in the next couple days,” Anthony said. “I’m pretty sure he will be. I don’t think it’s anything too serious.”

Kidd said he was disappointed to miss Monday’s historic game against his old team, the Nets, in Brooklyn, a game the Nets won in OT.

“It was tough because the guys played well,” he said. “We had an opportunity to win the game on the road. It was tough to watch. But it was a lesson learned from everybody.’’

As for Amar’e Stoudemire, who has not played this season with a ruptured left popliteal cyst, he ran on the court and did some other stretches Thursday.

He is expected back sometime around Christmas.

“I know 6-8 weeks was dangling out there,” Woodson said. “We’re going to accept Amar’e back when he’s ready to go. When that is, I don’t know. I really don’t.”

Asked if it was a good sign that Stoudemire was running, Woodson said, “That’s a great sign, he’s out running and he’s shooting a little bit. So we’re just going to gauge it as he goes along and the doctors and Amar’e will tell us when he’s ready.”

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187 comments
Monty
Monty

god bless you

dabronx
dabronx

I like Attaochu, but he doesn't look elite on film. Not crazy about him. Who I wouldn't mind in the second round is Kyle Van Noy. Dude is a beast on tape and had good measurables. Would of been a top 20 pick last year if he opted for the NFL.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2tL4xUZP_8

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

Can't help but fantasize about Attaochu coming to the Jets.   I really like this guy, his moves, motor, great attitude, everything.   Imagine him learning under Rex, being mentored by Pace, and bookended with Coples...or...on certain downs...on the same side!   


This is how you compensate for any questions/uncertainties you may have about the evolving secondary.   Add Attaochu to the mix and you really do let the monsters out of their boxes. 


Trouble is you may need to get him early, probably second round.   Too much buzz about this guy...he's not making it to our third pick.  

Wilkershakes
Wilkershakes

What are some recommended site for pre-draft scouting reports?  

Marvel
Marvel

our first round pick will be decided after the Cooks /obj visits, I'm sure of it.



Honestly if it's even on talent, I think Cooks wins post visits. Just a gut feeling.


Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@dabronx  


I think Attaochu's in same class as Van Noy, and possibly a better fit for Rex.  He's like Ansah in the sense he's relatively new to the game...so what you see is just the tip of the iceberg.    


I'd be delighted with either of those guys, frankly.  If we can't snag them then I think Demarcus Lawrence, DE out of Boise St. can be had in the third round, and would also be a potential force of nature at OLB down the line.   

a57se
a57se

@dabronx  

Having Ansah on the other side made Van Noys' life much easier last year.......

a57se
a57se

@Hazard2012  

That is the problem, a lot of guys to like in the first three rounds but we only have 3 picks in those rounds as well.

WW85
WW85

@Marvel  Honestly, I think Idzik will go Cb @ 18, unless they get blown away by the visit or if all the CBs are gone. Just looking at Seattle drafts. Doesnt seem that WR is high there.  Hope I'm wrong

Pat d
Pat d

I like Cooks but Lee is the better WR

dabronx
dabronx

@Hazard2012 @dabronx 

I would be ecstatic if we picked up Van Noy but I think your right - I don't think he is the best scheme fit. 

dabronx
dabronx

@a57se @dabronx 

Agree..  but it also meant that teams didn't run to his side as often and double/triple teamed him. 

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@a57se @Hazard2012  


Which is the main reason I'm a fan of moving down, maybe more than once, to the four or five teams right behind us, if they're willing to part with a 2nd or 3rd round pick.   The way I see it that's the only way we can grab that extra top player of two while still getting our top targets.

a57se
a57se

@Bent @Wilkershakes 

We tend to get only reports on guys we think the Jets might like and those reports tend to be compilations of others work.

Pat d
Pat d

If Dennard or Gilbert is there at 18 a CB would be okay. More likely the Jets go safety if Pryor is there at 18.

WW85
WW85

@Pat d  What's up with Lee's 40 time: 4.52 & his refusal to run it again on his pro day?  Is his knee not 100% yet?  I wonder if they will clock him again on his visit days

bobbyj
bobbyj

Why do people want a receiver in the 1st rd when so many people say it's a deep WR draft, combined w/the fact that we have so many needs? I've only glanced at a few, but they are showing a ton of Olineman in the first rd. if a real good one slips, wouldn't we be better served there

gbrownn
gbrownn

I like Cooks and Lee(in the 2nd round) but ODB is the better
WR

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@a57se @Hazard2012  


Just using those two examples.  It could be anyone between Miami and say Carolina at 28. I'm sure they'll be lots of trades in this draft...question is by whom for what.   I'd just be receptive to any offers that came our way.   

a57se
a57se

@Hazard2012 @a57se 

We pick 18, Miami picks 19 and Arizona 20...... your bidding war idea sounds like a scene from hollywood.

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@a57se @Hazard2012  


They might if they thought we or another team in front of them might take the top player on their board!    


I think it depends on how the board shakes out, but I'm just saying I'd move down under the right circumstances to increase the number of picks I have in the first 2-3 rounds.   

a57se
a57se

@Hazard2012 @a57se  

Mia., and Ariz. wouldn't offer a third round pick to move up.....way too costly.

It would take a team from 25 on down for us to get a third straight up.....


Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@a57se @Hazard2012  


Very true...takes two to tango...but I think (and hope) that the right players will fall to entice Mia, Ariz, GB, KC, Cinn and SD to part with one of those precious picks so they can land the top player on their board.   


Not impossible, and in fact may be more than possible, even likely, that at least one of these teams would be willing to make a move. 


Two things, though.   We have to get 2nd or at least 3rd rounders to move, and we also have to be almost guaranteed a player we covet will still be on the board after the trade down.       

a57se
a57se

@Hazard2012 @a57se 

The problem with that is WHY would someone want to give up those premium picks?

It would have to a very compelling situation for that to happen.

Pat d
Pat d

Benjamin is not a good fit for the Jets.

Bent
Bent moderator

@gbrownn  I meant nitpicking flaws in his game.  I just wonder if teams know more than the so-called experts about how to assess a guy's potential.

a57se
a57se

@gbrownn  

I wouldn't be surprised if Pittsbirgh takes him early.......

bklyndude
bklyndude

@gbrownn

I agree he is an interesting prospect and may turn out to be a good player in the NFL,  but why take a chance on this type of guy who supposedly blew off a workout and needs to get into better shape.

gbrownn
gbrownn

@Bent  "Picking holes" as in against zone coverage? Or "picking holes" in Benjamins game? Are you saying there some smokescreens going around about his level of interest in league circles? I think somebody has it in their mind to trade back into the 1st if Benjamin is still there.  Theres got to be one team willing to take this freak in  the first

a57se
a57se

@bklyndude

One would think even a spec of self-awareness would make that obvious......

gbrownn
gbrownn

Alshon Jeffrey was told that. But i dont see the point your trying to make. It actaully does happen often. Teams say  "We like you as a prospect but we think if you lost or gained x amount of pounds we like you at this position"

bklyndude
bklyndude

@gbrownn

When you are about to get drafted into the NFL,  you shouldn't have to be told you need to lose weight and get into better shape.

Bent
Bent moderator

@gbrownn  I heard teams saying good things about him and "experts" picking holes.  Hmmm...

gbrownn
gbrownn

I want him. I think he's a lot more polished then people give him credit for. He's never going to get separation like a Brandin Cooks or ODB, but he doesn't need to, his size alone pretty much means he "always open". Such a mismatch. The Stephen Hill miss has scared alot of us on taking Big "project" Wrs. Even though I don't think Benjamin is half the project Hill is.

a57se
a57se

@Bent @a57se 

Only in the first round based on the comments...Second round is OK.....

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent  Except Kelvin Benjamin!  Nobody wants him.  I feel a little sorry for him.

a57se
a57se

@Bent @a57se

Haha......cherry pick the good stuff and everyone sounds like a future Pro Bowler!

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent @Wilkershakes  


Exactly!  I tend to find TJB gives me reports on all the guys we think the Jets like and that they give a good representation of everyone's views on the subject.  That's what I want!


I may be somewhat biased.

Pat d
Pat d

Like I have said before the knee is the concern not the 40 time.

psi1
psi1

I like Moncrief in R2 if they go defense or TE in R1.

Pat d
Pat d

Hazard

There is no way Robinson is better than Lee. Robinson has average speed and isn't a very good route runner. Lee has explosive speed and is the best route runner in this draft.

On top of that Lee is a better fit.

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@a57se @Hazard2012  


I think it's more a case of him getting more physical and using his size more effectively, and less a case of suspect hands.   But I'd take a chance on this guy in a second.   

a57se
a57se

@Hazard2012 @a57se

I've liked Moncrief for a long time.....when we had two 3rd round picks (thought we did) I always picked Moncrief in the third....now, I think we'd have to take him in the second to have a chance.

His hands are suspect as well.

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@a57se @Hazard2012 @bobbyj  


Robinson might be a tweener.  I actually like him more than Lee, but then I'm not exactly a Lee proponent, period.    


Moncrief is the guy I think will be the absolute steal in the entire WR class...fluid, good routes, strong, great hands, 6'3" and runs a 4.40 with something like a 40" vert.     

a57se
a57se

@Hazard2012 @bobbyj 

you can probably add Robinson to that group......there could easily be 8 to 10 WR's selected before our 2nd round pick. That would leave us with very slim pickings at 49 for a WR and it would probably require us reaching for a guy at that point.

Hazard2012
Hazard2012

@bobbyj  


It might be more a case of wanting a particular WR, from the top tier of them, rather than 'settle' for second or third tier talent.   In all likelihood, Watkins, Evans, Cooks, Beckham and Lee all go off the board by end of the first round, and although there's still talent in the tier right behind them, it may not be as dynamic or proven as the top five guys.  


That's what's driving the 'get a WR first' sentiment.   But one can say similar things about almost all positions.   So if you really want one of these guys you're probably going to have to do it by round three...and possibly two.   That's true for OL, too.     

psi1
psi1

Since none of us knows for sure, I'm saying the Jets will likely pick one of Cooks, OBJ or Denard in R1.

psi1
psi1

Keep Lee; I'm asking for Cooks then OBJ.

Pat d
Pat d

I like all 3 WRs at 18. But Lee is the best fit for the Jets.