Boeheim: ‘Rivalries don’t matter to anyone anymore’

SYRACUSE, N.Y. (AP) — On the day after the Big East lost its fifth member in 18 months with Rutgers bolting for the Big Ten and with more defections likely on the horizon, the man who helped make Big East basketball the force that it is offered his view of the college landscape.

“I’m going to let those people play their games,” Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim said Wednesday night after his sixth-ranked Orange beat Princeton 73-53. “I think they’ll be doing that for the next 20 years. If they could figure it out and get it done in the next year, we wouldn’t have to think about it.

“Maybe they should just have a draft, each conference should just draft teams … except then they’d have to make a decision and they wouldn’t be able to figure it out. Eventually, they’ll get this thing figured out. They’ll get all the teams moved and then in a year or two someone will say `We need to take somebody,’ … But I’ll be long gone by then.”

Syracuse and Pittsburgh will leave the Big East after this season to join the Atlantic Coast Conference and West Virginia already has bolted for the Big 12. Either Louisville or Connecticut is expected to join the defectors going forward.

Although Syracuse has indicated it will continue to try to keep archrival Georgetown on the schedule, the changing college landscape will have an effect on rivalries. None was more intense than Georgetown-Syracuse in the 1980s.

“Rivalries don’t matter to anyone anymore,” Boeheim said. “If you ask someone at West Virginia if they like going to Texas Tech or Texas A&M and all those places, ask their fans whether they really like that. Maybe they do. I don’t know. I don’t get it. It’s just the way it’s going. There’s nothing you can do about it.

“Like I said, if these guys [the conference commissioners] were running the United States in colonial times, Brazil and Argentina would be states because they have something we need. It’s a great country.”

Boeheim, in his 37th year at his alma mater, turned 68 last week and is eight wins shy of becoming the third Division I men’s coach to reach 900, behind only Mike Krzyzewski and Bob Knight.

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Joseph H.
Joseph H.

I did the mock on Fanspeaks just for kicks and giggles. Here' my results:


18 WR MIKE EVANS TEXAS A&M

49 TE JACE AMARO TEXAS TECH

80 CB E.J. GAINES MISSOURI

104 RB BISHOP SANKEY WASHINGTON

115 MARCUS MARTIN USC

137 RB DE’ANTHONY THOMAS OREGON

154 DE KAREEM MARTIN NORTH CAROLINA

195 WR L’DAMIAN WASHINGTON MISSOURI

209 CB NEVIN LAWSON UTAH STATE

210 TE JAKE MURPHY UTAH

213 QB KEITH WENNING BALL STATE

233 OT JUSTIN BRITT MISSOURI

Paul Samuels
Paul Samuels

Would the signing of Allen have hampered Coples development, or would he have taken Pace's place? 

twin
twin

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fast_eddie
fast_eddie

twin, you answered your own question. Eli is a vet with a track record and two Super Bowl rings...and won the MVP is both games to boot. Geno is a rookie and until rookies accomplish something and have their own track record to fall back on, they are open to criticism. That's life as an NFL QB...

twin
twin

I find this real funny... ELI led the league in TO'S & he won 2 BOWLS... GENO a rookie finished 2nd behind ELI in TO'S.....He's a rookie ELI'S a vet., & everybody is DOWNING GENO... I DON'T GET IT...

twin
twin

What do you'll think about TOMMY BOHANNON??????

twin
twin

@fast_eddie Respect that! THIS means to me that GENO is going to be  great..I will sign up for 2 SUPER BOWLS...HERE THEY COME JETS FANS....  2 in a row... when they come.. (can't predict the years yet)

fast_eddie
fast_eddie

@twin


Dude, you answered your own question. Eli is a vet with a track record of two Super Bowl rings and won the MVP is both games to boot. Geno is a rookie and until rookies accomplish something and have their own track record to fall back on, they are open to criticism. That said, I personally LIKE Geno...

a57se
a57se

@twin  

Eli's first four regular seasons were eerily similar to Mark Sanchez'..........

Bytor
Bytor

@twin  Nothing to get. You must be unaware that the Giants are the classiest, best run, incredible organization in sports. Nothing they do should be questioned. When Eli throws int's he's an aggressive qb and a victim of unfortunate circumstances. Geno just stinks and so do the Jets.


Eli did have a couple of stellar runs with a little bit a luck thrown in. Then again so did Flacco. It will be fascinating to see how they handle Eli's next contract.

funkymonk
funkymonk

@twin  Eli has a body of work besides 2013, and that body includes 2 rings. I don't think Eli is anything special, but he's earned the respect, Geno hasn't.

__fense
__fense

@twin  In my Madden game he's somehow a 99 overall, even though he 's never touched the ball in his career.

Bent
Bent moderator

@twin  He's much better than Lex Hilliard and I would hope he'll make improvements in his second season with a full offseason in an NFL weights program under his belt.


It's unfortunate that people are writing him off already.  

Paul Samuels
Paul Samuels

@Bent @Paul Samuels  Whoops, must have read right over it. Makes sense though, I am okay with the Jets not spending the money to get him. 

twin
twin

@Bytor @twin do you really think geno sucks or he needs time & weapons?

Brendan
Brendan

@levi So do I, you gonna hold it against me? 

funkymonk
funkymonk

@Bent @twin  Agreed. He wasn't very good last year, but the dude was a 7th round pick, let's give him a chance. He has pretty good hands, 11 catches on 16 targets. But obviously he needs to improve as a blocker.

a57se
a57se

@Bytor @twin 

Let's nudge into the twenties on Offense, I'd be happy with that right now!

Bytor
Bytor

@twin @Bytor  Nah, first part had full on sarcasm font. I think he'll make a big jump this year especially if they continue to stock up on weapons. I really think Geno's got it between the ears as well as his physical gifts that match up well with the WCO.


I'm liking some combinations such as:


Decker/Kerley/Lee, Niklas, Ivory/MJD?

Decker/Kerley/DJax, Niklas, Ivory/MJD?


If we nudge into the top half of the league in offensive production, we're playoff bound.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent  That's always hard to quantify, but I don't think it was that much.  A lot of his interceptions were of the "heave downfield to nobody" variety where the Blame Schotty crew didn't have a leg to stand on when they tried to blame it on the playcalling.


They still had Coles back then, so the receiving corps wasn't as bad as at the start of 2009. Coles, Cotchery, Keller, Baker, Stuckey, BSmith and Leon out of the backfield.  Certainly not worse than 2009 (Stuck and Smith were 3 and 4 instead of 2 and 3 as they had lost Coles and Baker).  Of course things then started to improve when they replaced Stuck with Bray.

a57se
a57se

@Bent

How much of Favres' ineffectiveness was due to our crappy WR's and crappy OC?

maynardfan
maynardfan

@Bent @funkymonk @twin  Another item to ponder.  What if Bret Farve hadn't gotten hurt and the Jets made the playoffs…what then.  Seems to me that maybe:  no Rex, no Sanchez, who knows what else.  

Bent
Bent moderator

@bradysucks @Bent @a57se @johnnyl65  


Look at each game in isolation.  They beat some really bad teams in scrappy games.  The 6TD game against the Cards without which his stats are awful was won because of the DEFENSE with five second quarter turnovers.


They lost to the Raiders and Matt Cassel at home in his first career start and then lost four of their last five down the stretch.  They were 24-6 up to the Pats thanks to a kickoff return and then threw the lead away by letting Matt Cassel rack up 468 yards on them, getting lucky that they got the ball first in OT.


Other than the Titans win the week after that Pats win (a team which, it turned out, was not the force everyone had thought it was due to their record to that point), the team hardly ever put a complete performance together.


You may remember it like Favre was playing well on a week to week basis, but he really wasn't any better than Pennington had been in 2006 and arguably was worse.


He was hurt much earlier in the season (week six, I believe) and played pretty poorly from that point on.  They won in spite of him for the most part.

Bent
Bent moderator

@bradysucks @Bent @a57se @johnnyl65  


I disagree.  That defense had a major weakness which was exposed time and time again by several bad teams that almost beat us (and then did start beating us down the stretch).  They couldn't cover intermediately because guys like Barton, Bowens and Elam were overmatched.  That issue wasn't fixed until the Jets got Leonhard and Scott the following year.


Favre wasn't that good either.  ZERO 300-yard games.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@Bent @a57se @bradysucks @johnnyl65  


I thought we had a real chance at a super bowl in 2008 before Favre got hurt.......We had Jenkins, Revis and a great defense and a hall of fame QB....



Had Favre stayed healthy that season,......might have been special

bradysucks
bradysucks

@a57se @bradysucks @johnnyl65  


whatever


Bears and Ravens had Grossman and Dilfer.....


When you have the top defense and running game in the entire NFL......the QB'S job is SO much easier

a57se
a57se

@Bent @bradysucks

2010 a healthy Jenkins would of won the AFC Championship game v. Pitt....no way they run all over us with him in there.

a57se
a57se

@Bent @a57se@bradysucks@johnnyl65 

2009 the injuries to the secondary killed us in the AFC Championship game and 2010 the D'line.....you have to get real lucky with injuries to go all the way. Jenkins would have been big in 2009 but I don't know if his opresence would have overcome the secondary issues in that second half. v Indy unless he would have been manhandling Saturday all Sunday!

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @bradysucks @johnnyl65  


While we're playing the what if game though ... what if Jenkins stayed healthy all year (in 2009 OR 2010)?


If he'd been as dominant as he was in 2008 in either year then that might have pushed the Jets into that conversation.

a57se
a57se

@bradysucks @johnnyl65

Even with my BIGGEST Homer Hat on I wouldn't quite compare the 2009 Jets to the Bucs or Ravens SB teams.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@johnnyl65 @Bent @funkymonk @twin  


It has been 45 years since the last Jets super bowl so a Jets super bowl earns a QB at least 45 years....



but Sanchez kept some truly great teams from having home field advantage in the playoffs and he lost in the playoffs,....twice.....even Rex Grossman and Trent Dilfer were good enough to get to the super bowl with a great defense and running game....

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@a57se @Bent @funkymonk @twin  Absolutely.Revis would have got paid and we would have carried Holmes a while.

Bent
Bent moderator

@funkymonk @twin  I had a thought the other day.  What if the Jets managed to reach or maybe win a Super Bowl in either of their first two years with Sanchez...then assume 2011-2013 panned out exactly the same - late season collapse, buttfumble, benched for McElroy, injured for the year etc.


Would the Jets still have moved on from Sanchez this offseason or would the fact he's taken them that step further (which easily could have happened without him needing to play any better with a play here and a play there going in their favor) have bought him some more time?

funkymonk
funkymonk

@twin Yes, exactly. Each super bowl win earns you 2 bad seasons, is the approximate math.

levi
levi

@Brendan @levi  Not at all. I read an article on him though saying how he goes through tons of shoes at practice because he sweats so bad. He asked what we thought about him and that came to mind.

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @levi 

I don't think he'd want to hold anything against you if you sweat profusely!

twin
twin

@funkymonk @Bent@twin ALSO his feet... gotta work on his footwork.. he lets the first guy tackle him.. He's 2 powerful for that...

juunit
juunit

@Bent @twin 

No. Come on. That's not nice. Rontez Miles is not Frankenstein's earring wearing brother.

Bent
Bent moderator

@twin @a57se @bob  One mile is 5280 feet so depends how many miles there are.