Dominic Woodson Down to 2, Decision Expected Soon (UPDATED)

Dominic Woodson is down to two schools — Baylor and N.C. State — and a decision could come fairly soon.

“He’s not going to take his Oklahoma visit this weekend so I would look for a decision on that one pretty quick,” Huntington Prep coach Rob Fulford told SNY.tv Tuesday morning.

“I would think he’s probably going to take the weekend, talk it over with his famly and I would anticipate it being pretty soon.”

The 6-foot-10 Woodson visited Baylor this past weekend and N.C. State the weekend before.

“It went well,” Kevin Robinson, Woodson’s AAU coach, told SNY.tv of the Baylor visit. “I like the staff and the team looks pretty deep this year. Next year they will have a need for bigs but will have really good guards already in place.

“If he chooses there it would be a great place to continue his education and basketball career.”

Woodson previously said N.C. State head coach Mark Gottfried told him the bigs will be involved in the offense.

“They would put me in the post and bring me out to the top of the key, to the free throw line” Woodson said. “They would let me pass. Just explained to me what my role would be. The big man touches the ball every down the court.”

Woodson hopes to decide within a week or so.

“I’m going to decide coming up pretty soon,” he said. “I think in November.”

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75 comments
frustjetfn
frustjetfn

All this talk about bringing a QB in and competition for the starting job is BS, the reality of the situation is quite different. The reality then is :

1- The Jets asked Garrard back even though they demonstrated over the past 16 games that he is unusable to them on the field. So much so that even when they had to pull Geno for incompetence, they would not use him.

2- The Jets don't view Simms as a viable starter. Even when they had to pull Geno because he was embarrassing himself and the team they went back to Geno when the starting score was 0-0 (i.e., the next game).


3. Despite what the Jets claim, Geno is their starter and unofficial franchise QB. The only differences between the Jets policy with Sanchez and Geno is the team openly conveyed the hope that Sanchez was the future. 


4. Reality shows that the team gave both Sanchez and Geno 16 games to "develop" as a rookie. But while Sanchez took the Jets to an AFC Championship Game with a stronger offensive team & making fewer mistakes, Geno scrapped out an 8-8 record with a weaker offense and some atrocious games. So comparing Sanchez and Geno unemotionally, despite starting only a few games in college, Sanchez was the better QB.


5. I believe the Jets pattern is set. They are repeating the same process they followed with Sanchez, but cannot designate Geno as the franchise without a similar running game, OL and results that they had in 2009.  So in 2014 they will draft additional weapons, start Geno another 16 games and prey for enough positive results to dedicate the next two development years to Geno (a repeat of Sanchez' 2011 & 2012 years).


6. By the end of 2016 we'll know if repeating the 4 year developmental cycle the Jets use to find a franchise QB is successful. It failed with Sanchez, but maybe they'll get lucky with Geno. But whatever happens, it should look very familiar to Jets fans.

madbacker
madbacker

@Bent

I know this is a different  posting but the cunningham move confuses me greatly. I am hoping you have some info on it. Is there any talk of Barnes or O'Canada not coming back? Why pick Cunnigham over a guy like Sapp or Worilds who offer more to the team? Also with Pace turning in one of his best career years what (If any) is the word on his status with the team? 


Secondly,what are your thoughts on the idea of getting a guy like Eugene Monroe, Micheal Oher or Rodgers Safford; even-though they have been tackles to this point in their careers. Could easily move in to play LG and would have a larger impact on the O than any rookie/2 year player we currently have on the team. I highlight these two because, I know Schwartz has been discussed and personally knowing him. I do think he would be a great value pick up for the team I believe Oher, Stafford and Monroe are superior players. Also i historical tackles play better as guards, example Willie Colon. your thoughts on these items?

JCuratola3
JCuratola3

Please I know everyone is talking about how shotgun snaps helped Geno but go look at his receivers for game logs and you tell me when Kerley and Nelson were both playing he didn't play not average but GOOD. Go look at he last 4 games and the amount of the times he got hit as apposed to the 4 before those ..

Stanley Bostitch
Stanley Bostitch

Hypothetical - if Sanchez would come back on a minimum deal, would you bite? Too much drama, or a good backup?

Bent
Bent moderator

I thought the phrase was if you have two quarterbacks you have none?

SackDance99
SackDance99

Tre Mason is coming out and the rumor is Devonta Freeman will, too.  Maybe my hope of the Jets' drafting a poor man's Shady McCoy will come true.

elmoron
elmoron

Someone had previously posted that the Redskins could be entertaining unloading Cousins in return for needed pics. Should we get the extra third for Revis, I'd certainly consider trading one for him if it were enough.

djf1
djf1

@frustjetfn sanchez didn't have atrocious games? I guess five picks is an ok game.

harold
harold

@frustjetfn


Where are your facts.  I didn't see any.


Geno more yards, total TD's, higher completion percentage and higher Total QBR.  You must be grading on a curve.



P.S. I posted many other facts at the bottom of the page in response a57se. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@madbacker @Bent Moving a tackle inside later in their career is often a smart move.  I'm not sure which of those three would be best equipped to do it.  However, that tends to be a move teams make when they're on the hook to pay such guys and still want to bleed what production they can from them as their skills deteriorate.  It's not the kind of thing where you'd give them a big money deal and then move them.


Barnes will be back, not sure about McIntyre.  Plenty of room on the roster to fit a guy like Cunningham and it doesn't guarantee his place on the team or anything.  I'd still view him as a longshot.


If they hadn't lost Ricky to Houston, he'd still be there as Cunningham was just a replacement once he was swiped.

Bent
Bent moderator

@JCuratola3 


They were both in the lineup during weeks 6-9 when Geno struggled (highest QB rating just 71.2).


The best splits come when Kerley and Holmes were both in the lineup.  Seven games with 68.6 in one and the rest all 79.2 or above.  (5-2 record, too).

SackDance99
SackDance99

@Stanley BostitchIt's time to say goodbye.  Plus, at this point, Geno and Simms are ahead of him in their knowledge of MM's WCO, so I don't see the value-added.  He's not a good teacher, can't lead by example, and wouldn't be a viable starting option with the fan base.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@jake100Vick as a back up and mentor to Geno, however, makes a lot of sense.  He knows MM's system, in fact his best season came under MM, and health isn't as much of a concern when you're talking back up QB.  As for the circus, isn't Vick and animal cruelty really old news?  He returned to the NFL in 2009...that's like a century ago in today's media cycle.


I'd prefer Jake McCown or a soon-to-be-cut Matt Schaub, but Vick will likely sign for the vet minimum, with extra cash if he ends up starting.  The other guys will want more $$$, especially McCown.  Idzik saw Seattle get burned with Flynn, so I don't see him giving out lots of cash to someone who likely will be on the bench.

gbrownn
gbrownn

Is Vick really washed up though? His skills are DEFINETLY in decline but I wouldn't go as far as saying washed up. I think of it like this, If Geno would go down, would I rather have Vick, Hill, or Mccown in the game? I say Vick simply for because he is more talented than those guys. Just my opinion, but I wouldn't be opposed to a Hill or Mccown type either way.

gbrownn
gbrownn

Why though? Don't take the bait. A 3rd would be way too much for this guy. I really don't see what all the Cousins hype is about.

frustjetfn
frustjetfn

@djf1@frustjetfnNever said Sanchez didn't have an atrocious game so you implied it b/c I DID say Geno had some atrocious games. Sanchez did have bad games, but never had to be pulled in the middle of them. So if you're comparing bad game to bad game, you can't b/c Geno was pulled when self-destructing. If left in after having 3 turnovers would he have finished with 5 or 6? Who knows and who cares?


The issue for me is that the Jets are following the same development cycle with Geno that they followed with Sanchez. So if they add a vet QB this year he will be no more of a threat to Geno than Mark Brunell was to Sanchez.


Doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.

frustjetfn
frustjetfn

@haroldSanchez had a Regular Season QTR of 31.5 and a Post Season QTR of 75.4. Geno had a Reg Season QTR of 35.9. So they both sucked in Regular Season but as Rex and company liked to point out as rationale for starting him for 4 years, he went to the AFC Championship Game and actually performed well in those games.


However, my point is that the Jets are following the identical process with Geno as they did with Sanchez (i.e., betting the team's future on a QB before he has earned that loyalty). In my book, that is a mistake. Like any foolish bet, you may win but it's not a wise move.

Pat d
Pat d

Sorry to break the news but the fan base have nothing to do with viable starting options. If they do the Jets are in worse shape than any of us could imagine.

Bent
Bent moderator

@juunit @jake100 He lives in Colorado too, where real weed IS legal (isn't it?)

gbrownn
gbrownn

Ah Good point! I forgot Idzik was there was when Flynn was signed. Hopefully he's frugal and smart when he's targeting backup Qbs. Im all for the idea of a vet backup, I really am. But we have far more pressing needs in my opinion. So hopefully Idzik spends accordingly.

And I think Vick really has cleaned up his image in terms of the media. He has been doing a whole lot of image rehab and volunteer chairty work in his community so I think the "circus" atmosphere he would bring is a little overblown. It's the NY media though so who the hell really knows.

elmoron
elmoron

Yeah, I'm not too good at ascertaining corresponding pick value, but I do remember being pretty impressed with his performance during RG3's absence. He could add experienced depth at QB, and would still leave us free to draft a WR, TE, LB and/or OL in the first 4 rounds.

harold
harold

@a57se@harold


I have been here since the beginning I used to post under Big Har.  So I remember how people felt.  However you all missing the boat.  You have a better prospect but somehow you are less enthused makes little sense

harold
harold

@frustjetfn@harold


I let you know your facts were wrong so again you post facts which mean nothing post season stats.


Fact: The Jets had a far better team and only won one more game because Sanchez only had 3 games all season with a QBR over 70.  Geno had 5 such games. 


Geno had a better season just on a far worst team.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent Well, if Kerley and Holmes played 16 games each and Geno maintained that level of play, that would say a lot about both him and our receiver corps.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent It's Jessica Simpson.  She's pretty dumb.

joemustgo
joemustgo

@rkymtnjet Agreed. He has shown a lack of maturity and judgement his whole career. I would part ways with him unless we are desperate at the position.

juunit
juunit

@Bent@juunit@jake100 

That was medical though. I don't think they've made an episode about the legalization in Colorado yet. And they probably won't for a while with their new studio taking away from the amount of time they spend on the show. I don't think the newest season will be coming any time soon. 

RockyMountainJet
RockyMountainJet

@Bent @juunit @jake100 


Legal under state law - yes.

Legal under federal law - no. 


Winslow is an idiot.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent It's absolutely brilliant.  At it's best, South Park is the most cutting edge, inventive and hilarious show on TV and arguably the best social commentary of this generation.


If you've written it off as a juvenile toilet humor cartoon, then that's your loss.

Bent
Bent moderator

@juunit @Bent @jake100 My knowledge on the subject is pretty much limited to that South Park episode where Randy carries his balls around in a wheelbarrow.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se@SackDance99BTW, did the last sentence really add anything substantive?  I didn't think that was relevant for his player personnel duties.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@Bent@a57se@SackDance99Not fair, he did scout the Ivy League!

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @SackDance99 


Cut and pasted from the media's version of what his role was:


"Salary cap compliance, contract negotiations, bean counting, doing the filing, making spreadsheets, never talking to anyone, leaving the room whenever college film is being reviewed, having nothing to do with personnel, reading legal journals, pretending to understand whenever anyone starts talking about anything technical relating to the on-field action, making powerpoint presentations and taking credit for the work of others"

Bent
Bent moderator

@SackDance99 @a57se They still seem to be doing that.  Nearly every guy they sign seems to be a guy they were linked with in the draft process.  Must be an organizational policy rather than a Tannenbaum trait.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se@SackDance99But, scouting reports at the college level become the foundation for a team's file on all players, something that was apparent in "Collision Low Crossers" because the Jets tended to try to get pro players that they had evaluated positively coming out of college.

In any event, Idzik's official Seattle description sounds like he had minimal input on player evaluation, but had more input on the contract/compliance side:


With Seattle, Idzik oversees player negotiations, the team’s compliance with the NFL salary cap, player personnel transactions, all football operations budgets, staff and team contracts, team travel and most aspects of the day-to-day football operations while also remaining active in player evaluations.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @SackDance99 He might have had a hand in the deal that Flynn got, which turned out to be an overpayment.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se@gbrownnWhatever the titles, Idzik wasn't the main front office poo-bah and he wasn't on the player evaluation side, like Bradway was under Tanny.  So, I doubt that Idzik was responsible for signing Flynn.  For all we know, he could've been against it, which is a reasonable conclusion in that Flynn was available and he didn't bite.

gbrownn
gbrownn

Im not sure how credible WIkipedia is. But it says his title was Vice President of Football Admin. Sounds like he had more to do with the business aspect of the Seahawks then he did the Scouting. You could be right though

gbrownn
gbrownn

Maybe, Im not sure. Im really not too positive of what Idzik did and didn't control in Seattle.

gbrownn
gbrownn

Geno already has more game expierence than Cousins though. And it's not like he's some 10 year vet either. He just wrapped up his second season. That third round pick could be spent on another reciever or a rangy safety. I'd rather grab a vet QB in free agency or draft a guy in the later rounds(5-7) then trading one of our 3rds for Cousins. Setting us up better in the future in my opinion.