Ron Patterson to Syracuse; Williams to West Virginia

Ron Patterson liked his visit to Syracuse so much, he committed while on it.

“It just felt like home to me on my visit,” Patterson told SNY.tv by phone. “A lot of love they showed me. It’s a good program.”

The 6-foot-3 Patterson is a former Indiana commit who also considered  Xavier, Villanova, UConn, Miami, Providence and SMU.

“I’m a two guard who can shoot it,” he said. “A regular two guard. I will be getting out in the passing lanes and I’m able to shoot it, create shots off the dribble.”

Patterson will suit up in the ACC for the Orange beginning in 2013. He joins point guard Tyler Ennis, small forward B.J. Johnson and big man Chinonso Obokoh in Syracuse’s recruiting class.

“I’m really looking forward to that,” he said. “A lot of competition, I’m looking forward to getting after it.”

A former Broad Ripple Creek High School star, Patterson reportedly failed to meet academic requirements in summer school and was then denied admission to Indiana. He then opted to spend the year at Brewster (N.H.) Academy instead of transferring.

“He’s already qualified,” Brewster coach Jason Smith previously told SNY.tv. “He’s fully NCAA qualified. He ended up here only because of the timing with Indiana. Once he was denied admission to Indiana, he had six or seven high-major Division 1 schools that wanted him this year.

“He had three days to make a decision and he opted to come here.”

Now he’s heading to Syracuse.

“Ron is an athletic guard who has shot the ball very well from the perimeter this fall,” Smith said Saturday. “He’s an excellent defender and has tremendous length, which will be very effective and beneficial in Syracuse’s zone.”

WILLIAMS TO WEST VIRGINIA

Devin Williams, a 6-8, 230-pound center from Montverde (Fla.) Academy, committed to West Virginia, a source with direct knowledge told SNY.tv.

The Rivals No. 11 center in the Class of 2013, Williams also considered Memphis, Ohio State and UCLA.

“Devin can play any kind of way, up and down or half-court,” Michael Duncan, Williams’ AAU coach, previously told the Memphis Commercial Appeal. “He’s more successful in a half-court setting. He could play up and down, too, but he’s a hell of a dude in the half-court setting.”

He added: “He’s got an unbelievable work ethic. He works nonstop. Every day. Pool work, yoga — he puts it in. The dude knows how to compete. I think that’s important.”

Elijah Macon, another 6-8 forward who previously committed to West Virginia but then failed to qualify, also re-committed.

“A lot of things have been going on,” Macon told WVGazette.com. “But I’ll be there. I’ve got my grades together now and I’m ready to go.”

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109 comments
frustjetfn
frustjetfn

The Jets D is competitive and very good to elite. The O is atrocious, not competitive and no one w/o a religious-like fanatical belief would believe the "if we just eliminate turnovers we could score more than 17 points a game."

It's far too simplistic to just blame it on the infamous "offensive turnover" because at least 95% of turnovers are a result of poor training, techniques, talent, physical ability, concentration & preparedness. A turnover is a result, not a cause and therefore can't make itself happen. So it's time to dig a little deeper.

Fans who say we need lots of O help are on target. For starters we need help on the OL, WR's, TE's, a home run hitting RB and yes, a starting QB. Once we obtain a few of these pieces via FA or draft, I predict that the infamous turnover will no longer haunt Jets games .It will mean more work for our GM, but this remedy is more practical than a turnover exorcism.  Let's keep it real

harvlis
harvlis

I think one of the key factors in the SB was the Seattle pressure versus the Denver O-LIne.  It points out that, you can have the best QB in the game, two very good RB's, a great TE, and three dangerous receivers but, if the O-line can't keep the pressure off of your QB -- Game Over.  This is why, the first thing that I would do for the Jets is work on the O-line.  Our D-line is deep and dangerous.  We need to work on CB's as well but, if we don't build up the O-line, it will mean nothing. 

a57se
a57se

Two possibilities I have seen for the Jets first four picks look like the following:


1.    Ebron TE...........................Ebron TE

2.    Mason  RB.........................Sankey RB

3A.  Richardson WR..................Abbrederis WR

3B.  Reynolds S.........................Turner OT


Both of these scenarios point out the problem to me in drafting a TE at 18. All the top WR's get selected between our 1st and 2nd round picks. 

Robinson, Matthews, Benjamin, Beckham Jr., Cooks and Adams are all gone while Watkins, Evans and Lee go before we pick. The WR's that are left are NOT no. 1 WR types but complementary guys.  I would not be happy coming away from this draft with Paul Richardson or Abbrederis as my top WR pick.


Brendan
Brendan

@frustjetfn  I'm sorry, but why do you have to have a "religious-like fanatical belief" to say that turning the ball over less, when you're one of the most turnover-prone teams in the NFL, will lead to more points being scored? 


They scored 25.25 points/game over the final month with Geno protecting the ball. That's a considerable increase over their season average of 18.1. It's literally a touchdown difference, how can you sit there and say the turnovers aren't the single biggest reason the Jets have trouble scoring points? 

a57se
a57se

@frustjetfn  

I want us to get 2 WR's, 1 TE and 1RB in the first 4 rounds if possible and a developmental QB as well. Depending on what we do in FA, I'd also like an OW (Offensive Weapon) type guy who can return kicks and provide a spark now and then on offense.....

Defensively, i think there are some nice mid-round OLB prospects I'd like to bring in....

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@privatejet  Please, I hope not! If this turns out to be another rebuilding year Rex will likely be coaching elsewhere. With this years cap situation in so much better shape than the last two years, plus likely 12 draft picks there is no reason this team cant at least contend for a playoff spot. I'm thinking maybe pick up two starters in F/A,  three in the draft and hopefully a couple of last years picks step it up and become solid starters (Milliner,Geno & Winters) and this team should be greatly improved which means there is no reason it should not contend as the AFC playoff were there for the takeing this past season.

Roger Graziano
Roger Graziano

Harvlis, you just made the first intelligent and accurate post on this blog in months (outside of Sack)

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@harvlis  All excellent points! No question the O-line let Payton and the Bronc's down.The pressure off the edge was a big problem but there was more to it than that. First of all, Denver was never able to match Seattle's intensity level as Seattle was the more physical aggressive team from the opening kickoff (when the crushed the return man at the 14 yard line) to the end of the game.The other thing that was so impressive was how well coached they were.Their safety's were constantly in perfect position to crush Bronco receivers on the short crossing routes and yet also there in run support and even on the few deep pass's Payton attempted as well. Offensively, Seattle's receivers ran a lot of the same crossing(pick) routes that Denver used but were more successful as Wilson was able to hit several early 3rd down passes to keep drives going.When Denver did adjust Wilson was great buying time in the pocket to complete drive saving passes or running for first downs.This game was so one sided I thought seriously about switching to the "Puppy Bowl" but my wife wouldn't let me!

jake100
jake100

@harvlis   No doubt the D wins championships but you need at least a competent offense. Seattle does not exactly have bottom offense. They are close to mid pack, have two wrs in Baldwin and Tate who were close to 2, 000 yards combined, and a top rushing attack. No doubt the Jets offense needs some serious upgrades if they want to go on a real run, and also some key holes filled in on the defensive side.

a57se
a57se

@harvlis  

I thought it pointed out that a really good defense wins championships......let's stop complaining about drafting Defensive players!

Bytor
Bytor

@a57se  I know you're not a fan of Cooks, but watching Harvin in a limited role make a huge difference has sold me on a guy like him. If we end up taking Ebron, I'd make sure we get a guy like Cooks in the 2nd. Get a free agent like Nicks and draft another wr later like Moncrief. Not sold on Tate or Decker by the way. Both underwhelmed.

jdb4
jdb4

@a57se I present an alternative...


#18 - Jace Amaro TE Texas Tech


#49 - Brandin Cooks WR Oregon State (I know I listed it at 49 but I believe they will move up in the 2nd round [to move up 10-12 spots will cost a 4th round pick])


#69 Deone Bucannon S Washington State


#80 E.J. Gaines CB Missouri

harold
harold

@a57se

I like your pick of Ebron at TE, he has more potential as blocker than I orginally gave him credit for.  His hands although inconsistent are actually better than Vernon Davis coming out IMO.  He is the only TE who really jumped on the screen, although I would still prefer ASJ if we trade back late first or early second to Ebron in 1st @ 18.  I just think he is a safer pick, Heath Miller/ Jason Witten I think is where he lands.  Ebron can be Johhny Mitchell or Vernon Davis.

No RB in 2nd round it would be a poor value there.  I think the RB in this draft begin to come off the board in the 3rd and 4th roound.  If you like one get him there.

I would switch Abbrederis with Richardson.  I watched all heir game tape and Abbrederis is a much safer pick, much smoother route runner.

Again safety I think we can get Ladler in 4th so I would wait on safety as well.

I like your picks, I just think the values on those players are high.  At those positions similar players can be had later.

kniff
kniff

@a57se  I'm starting to like getting one FA WR stud, and the second WR stud as our first draft pick...

harold
harold

Brendan

I stated this yesterday, about the increase in points.  If we can average between 24 and 28 points per game we have a cgance to not only make the playoffs, but even challenge for the division.  I just don't get the reason so many fans are feeling the way they are.  We have a lot to be excited about.

I just think what if Geno showed everything he did this year but had the turnovers at the end of the season.  People would really be bumed out.  They would say there is no hope and we need to trade up.  At least his ending got a few people off the ledge.  Hopefully the rest get off the ledge as well

harvlis
harvlis

@Roger Graziano Thanks Roger.  Glad you agree.  Let's hope Idzik understands about the trenches.

harvlis
harvlis

@Ron Alexander @harvlis Ron, you are agreeing with me, by what you are describing.  A Denver O-line that was overmatched and a Seattle O-line that was able to give Wilson the time that he needed to get the job done.  The O-line is so important.  If we don't revamp the line, or at least get some depth at both Guard positions, we have no shot to go anywhere.  It all starts in the trenches.  Our D-line is awesome, now we need to stack the O-line.  Then, we will be in business.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 They are efficient and don't turn it over. That's what the Jets need from their offense: efficiency, a lack of turnovers and ball control. 

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@a57se @harvlis  Point well taken! But unless there's Ha-Clinton Dix sitting there at #18 I will be pissed if they go offense simply because we are so poorly situated on that side of the ball.There would have to be a ridiculous talent disparity to go that way!

harvlis
harvlis

@a57se @harvlis Seattle not only had a dominant Defense but, their Offense did the job, as well.  I think you need a balanced team to win regularly in this league.  The Seattle O-line did the job, Denver's failed.  If we don't fix the O-line, it won't matter how good our Defense is. 

a57se
a57se

@harold  

These were NOT my picks and I would not advocate for going this route. I think these two scenarios I presented would be disasters for the Jets based on the quality of WR's available in this draft.

I would prefer the following:


1. Beckham Jr.

2. Adams

3A. Niklas

3B. Sims


With trade ups as necessary to get these guys though niklas could easily be replaced by a later round TE like Fiedorowicz or Gilmore....I'd even take a late round flyer on Lyerla.


My whole point was that taking Ebron or Amaro at 18 might kill our chances of getting a No. 1 WR in this draft.

Brendan
Brendan

@harold  I really don't want a 1st round TE. Get one of the lesser-heralded guy in the middle rounds. 

a57se
a57se

@kniff @a57se 

I don't see any Free Agent WR "studs" so I want to come out of this draft with at least 2 WR's in the first three rounds and I'd rather get them from the following group:

Watkins, Evans, Lee, Beckham Jr., Adams, Benjamin and Matthews.

a57se
a57se

@harold  

It is nice that Geno's finish got a few people off the ledge, I just hope the Jets decision makers don't think we are set at QB and from all I've heard so far this off-season, they don't think that so THAT gives me more hope than ANYTHING Geno did.

Brendan
Brendan

@harold  Right. And the #'s you put together to show 57 that the Wilson/Geno first-seven-games comparison was legit show that it was the middle stretch where the team changed what it was doing (essentially, they went super-conservative and allowed the defenses they played to dictate the game to them) that got Geno in trouble. I don't get how you can see his final month, where the team scored at a clip that would've had it in the top-half of the league (and less than a point behind the Seahawks in ppg) and think THAT team can't compete with good teams next year. 

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@harvlis @Ron Alexander  Yes i agree we need O-line help as Winters is a work in progress and I'm not convinced he's a long term answer and Colon has holes in his game and is strictly a hold the fort guy anyway. Sadly ,it looked to me that the two other guys they drafted last year are probably nothing but wasted picks as neither of them apparently showed much in practice to make any one think they might contribute this year. With likely 12 picks I'm hopeful we can draft one or two O-linemen in the middle rounds as I hate the idea of drafting anything but a left tackle early as high draft picks eat up more cap space and I'm not convinced the value is there with the exception of maybe a left tackle.

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@Brendan @Ron Alexander  Sorry bro but were gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. If you want to call Wilson a game Mgr. it's more a product of the fact that his team has a great attacking defense which produces turn overs and a beast running back which allows him the luxury of not having to force the ball down the field.To me, a game manager hands the ball off on most 1st & 2nd downs and throws short safe passes like quick flanker screens and quick outs or hitches with an occasional deep ball to keep the defense honest.(Kind of like Payton yesterday!) What Wilson demonstrated yesterday was great accuracy, excellent decision making,  and the ability to extend plays by buying time to pass or running for a first down when the opportunity presented it self. And most importantly he protected the football with no T/O's. I dont know about you bro but the only game manager i saw on that field was wearing orange & blue.

Brendan
Brendan

@Ron Alexander Russell Wilson is 100% a game manager. He's a very athletic one, but he's still a game manager QB. 

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@Brendan @jake100  I usually agree with you but not this time. If your gonna be content just making the playoffs I suppose philosophy might be o.k but I'm quite a bit older and I'd like to win another super bowl while i still understand whats actually happening out there on the field. That game manager ship has sailed and please don't tell me Russell Wilson is game manager because his ability to make plays on his own clearly separates him from a Mark Sanchez or even Alex Smith.

a57se
a57se

@jake100  

I wish you would just say what you mean instead of bloviating like you do. Just say that you don't think Rex is a good defensive coach.....grow a pair!

jake100
jake100

@Brendan @jake100  

Its all about balance, look at the hawks the last couple of years, last season #1 pass defense, the jets #22. in 2012 the Jets were a couple notches ahead of the hawks in pass defense , but the Jets were at the bottom in run defense, where the hawks were top 10. It goes back to balance and the last couple years our defense has been at or close to top 10 but they cant bring it all together and that is what separates them from a TRULY top defense. Hopefully if the offense can stay on the field and score some and our secondary is addressed, we will be on our way to very formidable. 


Dont get me wrong, Rex is a master at improvising but the truly great defenses are more balanced and dont create other holes.

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @jake100 

I think the Jets D'Linemen are superior to Seattles......our Inside Linebackers are the weak link for us.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 The front sevens are close, if the Jets add another athletic OLB like Marcus was alluding to elsewhere in this thread, they'll have a front seven that matches up with Seattle's, the difference is in the secondary. 

jake100
jake100

@Brendan @jake100  

I have no doubt, if the Jets can get the offense to mid pack and fill some key holes on defense, they will have a good shot to make some real noise, but they need the offense to stay on the field, and of course not turning it over is key, but unless you have a hawks defense, you need an offense that can score. The difference with the hawks defense compared to the Jets, is the Jets always had glaring holes and were not balanced even though they ranked in the top 10. They gave up a huge amount of deep passes and were torched but still were close to a top 10. Rex has done well with schemes to compensate but the truly top defenses are much more balanced.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 The Jets are very, very close to being elite on defense again. They're just outside of that group, a fringe top-10 unit that was hit with some injuries. 


A few tweaks and they will be elite, the success of the team falls on the offense to not turn it over, basically. 

a57se
a57se

@jake100 @Brendan 

The Jets defense this past season was good enough to do that if the offense had been more consistent.....they just spent WAY too much time on the field again.

jake100
jake100

@Brendan @jake100  

Agreed but you then need a defense like the hawks that is close to elite if you just want to play ball control, if not, then you need to put up some points.

a57se
a57se

@harold  

Exactly, I still want 2 WR's early.....I wanted Ace Sanders last year but we just HAD to pick Will Campbell in the 6th round!

harold
harold

I can buy into that a late round pick needs to add to the special teams unit.  So I can go along with that.

a57se
a57se

@harold  

He is bigger but there is just something about Saunders....watch his tape vs. Alabama......he has a bad drop in there but he also beats Alabama twice for TD's.........I also like his return ability. I just think he could be a real nice returner if nothing else for this team. Ellington probably isn;t going to be our returner.

There are a couple plays where Saunders takes on guys twice his size and WINS! I like the kids moxie.....

harold
harold

I would take Ellington he is a little bigger than Saunders.  I think he may be able to find a niche a little easier.

a57se
a57se

@Bytor @a57se 

Ellington isn't a bad later round guy either, I just like Saunders a little better.....Ellingtons' brother has done alright with the Cards.

Bytor
Bytor

@a57se @Bytor  I'll definitely have a look see. I don't break down film like you guys so I may not come away with the most educated impression. I leave the real analysis to you maniacs :). I check out CBS for quick player profiles and see what you guys think. What do you think of Bruce Ellington along the same lines?

a57se
a57se

@harold  

Slot? 

Weren't you arguing with me the other day about Brandin Cooks NOT being a slot receiver when I said I thought he would be best there?

Beckham is bigger than Cooks. 

There are only 4 tapes available at Draft Breakdown on Beckham...three from 2013 and he was excellent in all three; One from 2012 which is a compilation of 3 or 4 games......

Not sure where you are getting beckham is inconsistent from. Mettenberger was inconsistent......

Everyone knows the only real knock on Beckham is his size......he is like Desean Jackson to me (Beckham is bigger than Jackson and probably NOT quite as fast but they have very simialr styles.) and he was a GREAT fit for MM's offense.


harold
harold

@a57se

I could see him in the 2nd round.  I watched these games with an open mind.  The kid was impressive.  However, these were his best games for the most part.  I watched some other SR games other that were not as impressive. 

 I still think too small to be a 1st rounder.  He would have to play slot in NFL to be a high level player.  But he did make some impressive grabs as he always does.  He can make contested catches which will serve him well in NFL.

If I felt he would be more consistent catching the ball and getting off physical coverage I would rate him higher.  Just can't do it just yet.

harold
harold

I am already on the website.  I will let you in about an hour.

harold
harold

I look at Jackson like Warford last year.  Everyone thought he was only a fit in a power blocking scheme and he went to the Lions and had an excellent season.  I think Jackson could do the same for us.

I will watch Beckham one more time to see if I am missing something.  I just think boom or bust.  But I will keep an open mind and watch one more time.

a57se
a57se

@harold  

Beckham Jr is not boom or bust. You are confusing his 2012 and 2013 tape.  The guy has huge, soft hands...he just had concentration issues in 2012 but corrected that in 2013. Beckham probably has the best hands in the draft.


Cooks just doesn't impress me........


Jackson is an impressive power blocker, too bad the Jets use a zone blocking scheme.......I could see Dozier in the 3rd if you want an OG real bad.


Sims may be had in the 4th round depending on how the draft pans out....

harold
harold

No Beckham Jr in the 1st round.  That is a disaster wait6ing to happen.  He is a great talent, but he is extremely boom or bust.  He is the most inconsistent WR I watched on tape.  He made the best catches, but also had some of the worst drops. 

If he was a 3rd rounder (which I know his speed probably prevents him from dropping that far)  I would take him.

I would take Cooks in the 2nd before I took Beckham in the first.  I just finished watching all of the WR and top 8 OG on the Breakdown site this weekend.  I think Gabe Jackson in the 3rd can step right in at RG he is can pretty well if he loses 5-10lbs he can be a high level player.  I think a bigger Brandon Moore.

I like Niklas I have watched his tape and think in the 3rd he is a good pick-up.

I like Sims, I just question if he has the consistent vision of an NFL RB.  He is good receiver out of the backfiled with good one cut ability and a little wiggle in the open field.

I just think he is late 4th or early 5th to me. 

I like Adams as a pick watched his tape.  Just wonder what his true measurements and testing will be.

Brendan
Brendan

@harold  I would rather go after a guy like Gilmore later on than a 1st round TE. 

harold
harold

I think TE is not deep.  You only have 4 really highly rated TE's I have watched them all, I was high on Amaro, I have dropped him some after watching a few more games. 

Crockett Gilmore is a wildcard 5th.  So with two 1st round TE's IMO ASJ and Ebron when you need one take that one early if you value him at that spot.  Wr is extremely deep so take that guy later on.

I

a57se
a57se

@harold  

SD has been a little loose with his facts lately.......:)

harold
harold

Julius Thomas is not a rookie this is like his 4th season.

a57se
a57se

@SackDance99

What is wrong with you? Colston is not being cut by the Saints! Several people have already told you that yet you keep bringing him up as an option!

What makes you think TB is going to cut VJAX when they are poring $16 million into a CB that doesn't fit in Lovie's Tampa two Defense????

What is the 'instant production' do you foresee for the Jets if Geno takes a step back to his Buff.-Balt.-Miami mode? 

WHY WOULD A GUY who just came from playing with a first ballot HOF QB WANT to play with GENO?

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se @SackDance99Sometimes your ignorance about football is staggering....  It should not be a surprise that in playoff football, where defenses are better and time in the pocket is at a premium, that Peyton went more to his strong side receivers, like his TE, or WR #1.  Then, if he's looking weakside, he has Wes Welker, one of the great slot WRs of this generation who he could use as a safety valve.

How Decker was used by Denver, especially in the playoffs, is nothing like how he would be used by the Jets as a WR #1.  With time to throw, this is what Decker can do:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201312010kan.htm


The $10 million isn't my or your money and I still do not think that the market will bear that figure.  Moreover, I'm all for the Jets seeing if they could get Colston or, preferably, VJax if they end up as cap casualties.  The point is that it would be better for the Jets to sign a UFA WR to get instant production rather than take a WR at 18 and hope he can buck the norm and actually produce like a veteran WR as a rookie.


You resist the idea of a legit pass-catching TE, like Ebron (who is the only TE that I'd draft at 18) in the 1st round; yet, it is far more likely for a rookie, stud TE to provide close to veteran production, like Jordan Reed and Julius Thomas did this season.

a57se
a57se

@SackDance99

OK, let's sign the invisible WR to a $10 Million Dollar a year deal.......

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se @Bytor@haroldCalling me out?  Decker, IMO, is like Reggie Wayne and Pierre Garcon before him: an alleged #2 WR in a Peyton passing offense that can be a #1 WR if given the chance.  He's improved every year as a pro, can return punts, is 6-3 with good bulk and would be light years better than any WR that could be drafted in 2014 for the 2014 season and maybe the 2015 season as well.  So, there you have it.

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @Bytor 

Decker didn't do much in the other broncos playoff games......pretty much disappeared in the PLayoffs.

Brendan
Brendan

@Bytor The he completely disappeared last night didn't do him any favors, that's for sure. 

a57se
a57se

@Bytor @harold 

That is what I have been saying all along about Decker.

Where is SD this morning telling us how great Decker is?

Bytor
Bytor

@harold  I think we draft a Decker too, especially for the money he'll likely get. He just doesn't look explosive. I thought he looks slow to be honest. 

harold
harold

I agree Tate is a waste of a money.  He is a good player but you draft Golden Tate you don't pay a lot of money for guys like him.

a57se
a57se

@kniff @a57se 

McCown had a great half season for Chicago but I wouldn't pay him starter money to come to the Jets. I don't believe a 34 going on 35 QB is a long term answer for this team and I'd rather see what the young guys have even if that means losing a few games we could have won along the way.......

kniff
kniff

@a57se @kniff  I'm sure we'll get at least one of those preferred guys...and I still haven't forgot the two TEs you put one the map... Fiedorowicz and Niklas.


Pass protection is essential this coming year... as it might just be Geno again.


How do you feel about Josh McCown? 

jdb4
jdb4

@a57se @kniff You are right, there are no stud WRs, but there are solid starters and contributors. Golden Tate, James Jones or even Tiquan Underwood will add to the team and likely won't command top dollar.