Ron Patterson to Syracuse; Williams to West Virginia

Ron Patterson liked his visit to Syracuse so much, he committed while on it.

“It just felt like home to me on my visit,” Patterson told SNY.tv by phone. “A lot of love they showed me. It’s a good program.”

The 6-foot-3 Patterson is a former Indiana commit who also considered  Xavier, Villanova, UConn, Miami, Providence and SMU.

“I’m a two guard who can shoot it,” he said. “A regular two guard. I will be getting out in the passing lanes and I’m able to shoot it, create shots off the dribble.”

Patterson will suit up in the ACC for the Orange beginning in 2013. He joins point guard Tyler Ennis, small forward B.J. Johnson and big man Chinonso Obokoh in Syracuse’s recruiting class.

“I’m really looking forward to that,” he said. “A lot of competition, I’m looking forward to getting after it.”

A former Broad Ripple Creek High School star, Patterson reportedly failed to meet academic requirements in summer school and was then denied admission to Indiana. He then opted to spend the year at Brewster (N.H.) Academy instead of transferring.

“He’s already qualified,” Brewster coach Jason Smith previously told SNY.tv. “He’s fully NCAA qualified. He ended up here only because of the timing with Indiana. Once he was denied admission to Indiana, he had six or seven high-major Division 1 schools that wanted him this year.

“He had three days to make a decision and he opted to come here.”

Now he’s heading to Syracuse.

“Ron is an athletic guard who has shot the ball very well from the perimeter this fall,” Smith said Saturday. “He’s an excellent defender and has tremendous length, which will be very effective and beneficial in Syracuse’s zone.”

WILLIAMS TO WEST VIRGINIA

Devin Williams, a 6-8, 230-pound center from Montverde (Fla.) Academy, committed to West Virginia, a source with direct knowledge told SNY.tv.

The Rivals No. 11 center in the Class of 2013, Williams also considered Memphis, Ohio State and UCLA.

“Devin can play any kind of way, up and down or half-court,” Michael Duncan, Williams’ AAU coach, previously told the Memphis Commercial Appeal. “He’s more successful in a half-court setting. He could play up and down, too, but he’s a hell of a dude in the half-court setting.”

He added: “He’s got an unbelievable work ethic. He works nonstop. Every day. Pool work, yoga — he puts it in. The dude knows how to compete. I think that’s important.”

Elijah Macon, another 6-8 forward who previously committed to West Virginia but then failed to qualify, also re-committed.

“A lot of things have been going on,” Macon told WVGazette.com. “But I’ll be there. I’ve got my grades together now and I’m ready to go.”

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58 comments
frustjetfn
frustjetfn

The Jets D is competitive and very good to elite. The O is atrocious, not competitive and no one w/o a religious-like fanatical belief would believe the "if we just eliminate turnovers we could score more than 17 points a game."

It's far too simplistic to just blame it on the infamous "offensive turnover" because at least 95% of turnovers are a result of poor training, techniques, talent, physical ability, concentration & preparedness. A turnover is a result, not a cause and therefore can't make itself happen. So it's time to dig a little deeper.

Fans who say we need lots of O help are on target. For starters we need help on the OL, WR's, TE's, a home run hitting RB and yes, a starting QB. Once we obtain a few of these pieces via FA or draft, I predict that the infamous turnover will no longer haunt Jets games .It will mean more work for our GM, but this remedy is more practical than a turnover exorcism.  Let's keep it real

harvlis
harvlis

I think one of the key factors in the SB was the Seattle pressure versus the Denver O-LIne.  It points out that, you can have the best QB in the game, two very good RB's, a great TE, and three dangerous receivers but, if the O-line can't keep the pressure off of your QB -- Game Over.  This is why, the first thing that I would do for the Jets is work on the O-line.  Our D-line is deep and dangerous.  We need to work on CB's as well but, if we don't build up the O-line, it will mean nothing. 

Brendan
Brendan

@frustjetfn  I'm sorry, but why do you have to have a "religious-like fanatical belief" to say that turning the ball over less, when you're one of the most turnover-prone teams in the NFL, will lead to more points being scored? 


They scored 25.25 points/game over the final month with Geno protecting the ball. That's a considerable increase over their season average of 18.1. It's literally a touchdown difference, how can you sit there and say the turnovers aren't the single biggest reason the Jets have trouble scoring points? 

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@privatejet  Please, I hope not! If this turns out to be another rebuilding year Rex will likely be coaching elsewhere. With this years cap situation in so much better shape than the last two years, plus likely 12 draft picks there is no reason this team cant at least contend for a playoff spot. I'm thinking maybe pick up two starters in F/A,  three in the draft and hopefully a couple of last years picks step it up and become solid starters (Milliner,Geno & Winters) and this team should be greatly improved which means there is no reason it should not contend as the AFC playoff were there for the takeing this past season.

Roger Graziano
Roger Graziano

Harvlis, you just made the first intelligent and accurate post on this blog in months (outside of Sack)

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@harvlis  All excellent points! No question the O-line let Payton and the Bronc's down.The pressure off the edge was a big problem but there was more to it than that. First of all, Denver was never able to match Seattle's intensity level as Seattle was the more physical aggressive team from the opening kickoff (when the crushed the return man at the 14 yard line) to the end of the game.The other thing that was so impressive was how well coached they were.Their safety's were constantly in perfect position to crush Bronco receivers on the short crossing routes and yet also there in run support and even on the few deep pass's Payton attempted as well. Offensively, Seattle's receivers ran a lot of the same crossing(pick) routes that Denver used but were more successful as Wilson was able to hit several early 3rd down passes to keep drives going.When Denver did adjust Wilson was great buying time in the pocket to complete drive saving passes or running for first downs.This game was so one sided I thought seriously about switching to the "Puppy Bowl" but my wife wouldn't let me!

Bytor
Bytor

@a57se  I know you're not a fan of Cooks, but watching Harvin in a limited role make a huge difference has sold me on a guy like him. If we end up taking Ebron, I'd make sure we get a guy like Cooks in the 2nd. Get a free agent like Nicks and draft another wr later like Moncrief. Not sold on Tate or Decker by the way. Both underwhelmed.

jdb4
jdb4

@a57se I present an alternative...


#18 - Jace Amaro TE Texas Tech


#49 - Brandin Cooks WR Oregon State (I know I listed it at 49 but I believe they will move up in the 2nd round [to move up 10-12 spots will cost a 4th round pick])


#69 Deone Bucannon S Washington State


#80 E.J. Gaines CB Missouri

harold
harold

@a57se

I like your pick of Ebron at TE, he has more potential as blocker than I orginally gave him credit for.  His hands although inconsistent are actually better than Vernon Davis coming out IMO.  He is the only TE who really jumped on the screen, although I would still prefer ASJ if we trade back late first or early second to Ebron in 1st @ 18.  I just think he is a safer pick, Heath Miller/ Jason Witten I think is where he lands.  Ebron can be Johhny Mitchell or Vernon Davis.

No RB in 2nd round it would be a poor value there.  I think the RB in this draft begin to come off the board in the 3rd and 4th roound.  If you like one get him there.

I would switch Abbrederis with Richardson.  I watched all heir game tape and Abbrederis is a much safer pick, much smoother route runner.

Again safety I think we can get Ladler in 4th so I would wait on safety as well.

I like your picks, I just think the values on those players are high.  At those positions similar players can be had later.

kniff
kniff

@a57se  I'm starting to like getting one FA WR stud, and the second WR stud as our first draft pick...

harold
harold

Brendan

I stated this yesterday, about the increase in points.  If we can average between 24 and 28 points per game we have a cgance to not only make the playoffs, but even challenge for the division.  I just don't get the reason so many fans are feeling the way they are.  We have a lot to be excited about.

I just think what if Geno showed everything he did this year but had the turnovers at the end of the season.  People would really be bumed out.  They would say there is no hope and we need to trade up.  At least his ending got a few people off the ledge.  Hopefully the rest get off the ledge as well

harvlis
harvlis

@Roger Graziano Thanks Roger.  Glad you agree.  Let's hope Idzik understands about the trenches.

harvlis
harvlis

@Ron Alexander @harvlis Ron, you are agreeing with me, by what you are describing.  A Denver O-line that was overmatched and a Seattle O-line that was able to give Wilson the time that he needed to get the job done.  The O-line is so important.  If we don't revamp the line, or at least get some depth at both Guard positions, we have no shot to go anywhere.  It all starts in the trenches.  Our D-line is awesome, now we need to stack the O-line.  Then, we will be in business.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 They are efficient and don't turn it over. That's what the Jets need from their offense: efficiency, a lack of turnovers and ball control. 

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@a57se @harvlis  Point well taken! But unless there's Ha-Clinton Dix sitting there at #18 I will be pissed if they go offense simply because we are so poorly situated on that side of the ball.There would have to be a ridiculous talent disparity to go that way!

harvlis
harvlis

@a57se @harvlis Seattle not only had a dominant Defense but, their Offense did the job, as well.  I think you need a balanced team to win regularly in this league.  The Seattle O-line did the job, Denver's failed.  If we don't fix the O-line, it won't matter how good our Defense is. 

Brendan
Brendan

@harold  I really don't want a 1st round TE. Get one of the lesser-heralded guy in the middle rounds. 

Brendan
Brendan

@harold  Right. And the #'s you put together to show 57 that the Wilson/Geno first-seven-games comparison was legit show that it was the middle stretch where the team changed what it was doing (essentially, they went super-conservative and allowed the defenses they played to dictate the game to them) that got Geno in trouble. I don't get how you can see his final month, where the team scored at a clip that would've had it in the top-half of the league (and less than a point behind the Seahawks in ppg) and think THAT team can't compete with good teams next year. 

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@harvlis @Ron Alexander  Yes i agree we need O-line help as Winters is a work in progress and I'm not convinced he's a long term answer and Colon has holes in his game and is strictly a hold the fort guy anyway. Sadly ,it looked to me that the two other guys they drafted last year are probably nothing but wasted picks as neither of them apparently showed much in practice to make any one think they might contribute this year. With likely 12 picks I'm hopeful we can draft one or two O-linemen in the middle rounds as I hate the idea of drafting anything but a left tackle early as high draft picks eat up more cap space and I'm not convinced the value is there with the exception of maybe a left tackle.

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@Brendan @Ron Alexander  Sorry bro but were gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. If you want to call Wilson a game Mgr. it's more a product of the fact that his team has a great attacking defense which produces turn overs and a beast running back which allows him the luxury of not having to force the ball down the field.To me, a game manager hands the ball off on most 1st & 2nd downs and throws short safe passes like quick flanker screens and quick outs or hitches with an occasional deep ball to keep the defense honest.(Kind of like Payton yesterday!) What Wilson demonstrated yesterday was great accuracy, excellent decision making,  and the ability to extend plays by buying time to pass or running for a first down when the opportunity presented it self. And most importantly he protected the football with no T/O's. I dont know about you bro but the only game manager i saw on that field was wearing orange & blue.

Brendan
Brendan

@Ron Alexander Russell Wilson is 100% a game manager. He's a very athletic one, but he's still a game manager QB. 

Ron Alexander
Ron Alexander

@Brendan @jake100  I usually agree with you but not this time. If your gonna be content just making the playoffs I suppose philosophy might be o.k but I'm quite a bit older and I'd like to win another super bowl while i still understand whats actually happening out there on the field. That game manager ship has sailed and please don't tell me Russell Wilson is game manager because his ability to make plays on his own clearly separates him from a Mark Sanchez or even Alex Smith.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 The front sevens are close, if the Jets add another athletic OLB like Marcus was alluding to elsewhere in this thread, they'll have a front seven that matches up with Seattle's, the difference is in the secondary. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 The Jets are very, very close to being elite on defense again. They're just outside of that group, a fringe top-10 unit that was hit with some injuries. 


A few tweaks and they will be elite, the success of the team falls on the offense to not turn it over, basically. 

harold
harold

I can buy into that a late round pick needs to add to the special teams unit.  So I can go along with that.

harold
harold

I would take Ellington he is a little bigger than Saunders.  I think he may be able to find a niche a little easier.

Bytor
Bytor

@a57se @Bytor  I'll definitely have a look see. I don't break down film like you guys so I may not come away with the most educated impression. I leave the real analysis to you maniacs :). I check out CBS for quick player profiles and see what you guys think. What do you think of Bruce Ellington along the same lines?

harold
harold

@a57se

I could see him in the 2nd round.  I watched these games with an open mind.  The kid was impressive.  However, these were his best games for the most part.  I watched some other SR games other that were not as impressive. 

 I still think too small to be a 1st rounder.  He would have to play slot in NFL to be a high level player.  But he did make some impressive grabs as he always does.  He can make contested catches which will serve him well in NFL.

If I felt he would be more consistent catching the ball and getting off physical coverage I would rate him higher.  Just can't do it just yet.

harold
harold

I am already on the website.  I will let you in about an hour.

harold
harold

I look at Jackson like Warford last year.  Everyone thought he was only a fit in a power blocking scheme and he went to the Lions and had an excellent season.  I think Jackson could do the same for us.

I will watch Beckham one more time to see if I am missing something.  I just think boom or bust.  But I will keep an open mind and watch one more time.

harold
harold

No Beckham Jr in the 1st round.  That is a disaster wait6ing to happen.  He is a great talent, but he is extremely boom or bust.  He is the most inconsistent WR I watched on tape.  He made the best catches, but also had some of the worst drops. 

If he was a 3rd rounder (which I know his speed probably prevents him from dropping that far)  I would take him.

I would take Cooks in the 2nd before I took Beckham in the first.  I just finished watching all of the WR and top 8 OG on the Breakdown site this weekend.  I think Gabe Jackson in the 3rd can step right in at RG he is can pretty well if he loses 5-10lbs he can be a high level player.  I think a bigger Brandon Moore.

I like Niklas I have watched his tape and think in the 3rd he is a good pick-up.

I like Sims, I just question if he has the consistent vision of an NFL RB.  He is good receiver out of the backfiled with good one cut ability and a little wiggle in the open field.

I just think he is late 4th or early 5th to me. 

I like Adams as a pick watched his tape.  Just wonder what his true measurements and testing will be.

Brendan
Brendan

@harold  I would rather go after a guy like Gilmore later on than a 1st round TE. 

harold
harold

I think TE is not deep.  You only have 4 really highly rated TE's I have watched them all, I was high on Amaro, I have dropped him some after watching a few more games. 

Crockett Gilmore is a wildcard 5th.  So with two 1st round TE's IMO ASJ and Ebron when you need one take that one early if you value him at that spot.  Wr is extremely deep so take that guy later on.

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harold
harold

Julius Thomas is not a rookie this is like his 4th season.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se @SackDance99Sometimes your ignorance about football is staggering....  It should not be a surprise that in playoff football, where defenses are better and time in the pocket is at a premium, that Peyton went more to his strong side receivers, like his TE, or WR #1.  Then, if he's looking weakside, he has Wes Welker, one of the great slot WRs of this generation who he could use as a safety valve.

How Decker was used by Denver, especially in the playoffs, is nothing like how he would be used by the Jets as a WR #1.  With time to throw, this is what Decker can do:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201312010kan.htm


The $10 million isn't my or your money and I still do not think that the market will bear that figure.  Moreover, I'm all for the Jets seeing if they could get Colston or, preferably, VJax if they end up as cap casualties.  The point is that it would be better for the Jets to sign a UFA WR to get instant production rather than take a WR at 18 and hope he can buck the norm and actually produce like a veteran WR as a rookie.


You resist the idea of a legit pass-catching TE, like Ebron (who is the only TE that I'd draft at 18) in the 1st round; yet, it is far more likely for a rookie, stud TE to provide close to veteran production, like Jordan Reed and Julius Thomas did this season.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@a57se @Bytor@haroldCalling me out?  Decker, IMO, is like Reggie Wayne and Pierre Garcon before him: an alleged #2 WR in a Peyton passing offense that can be a #1 WR if given the chance.  He's improved every year as a pro, can return punts, is 6-3 with good bulk and would be light years better than any WR that could be drafted in 2014 for the 2014 season and maybe the 2015 season as well.  So, there you have it.

Brendan
Brendan

@Bytor The he completely disappeared last night didn't do him any favors, that's for sure. 

Bytor
Bytor

@harold  I think we draft a Decker too, especially for the money he'll likely get. He just doesn't look explosive. I thought he looks slow to be honest. 

harold
harold

I agree Tate is a waste of a money.  He is a good player but you draft Golden Tate you don't pay a lot of money for guys like him.

kniff
kniff

@a57se @kniff  I'm sure we'll get at least one of those preferred guys...and I still haven't forgot the two TEs you put one the map... Fiedorowicz and Niklas.


Pass protection is essential this coming year... as it might just be Geno again.


How do you feel about Josh McCown? 

jdb4
jdb4

@a57se @kniff You are right, there are no stud WRs, but there are solid starters and contributors. Golden Tate, James Jones or even Tiquan Underwood will add to the team and likely won't command top dollar.

Brendan
Brendan

@harold  Good, with scary potential. Rex may end up blitzing out of boredom, because he sure as hell won't have to send any extra men to generate pressure next year. 

harold
harold

We have Barnes as your "traditional" Speed rusher.  I can't believe how quickly people forget how well we played until he got hurt.  Get him back and we will be good.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100


Please answer my question. 


The answer is "they rarely use a traditional OLB." They either use a 3-4 base set, the 46, nickel or dime. Rarely do they line up in a traditional 4-3. So, please, stop acting like Coples ever lines up off the LOS as a traditional LB. 


He's a defensive end. When the Jets interviewed the "defense line," Coples was among the group with Wilkerson, Ellis, The Dooz and Richardson. He's a DE who is listed as an "OLB." He's this team's Terrell Suggs. I don't know how clearer I can make this. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 


Joey. TRADITIONAL. 


Please explain where the "traditional" OLB's line up in Rex's defense. I'll wait. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 Joey. TRADITIONAL. 


Please explain where the "traditional" OLB's line up in Rex's defense. I'll wait. 

levi
levi

@a57se Maybe you should take your own advice and stop calling people out who are not even conversing with you. Like you did with SD and harold.

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100 Good god, Joseph. 


The "RUSH" linebacker rushes. That's the majority of his job. He sets the edge (which Coples does very well) and he gets after the QB (which Coples also does very well) and rarely drops into coverage. 


You are right, Coples is better going forward, where you're off is you think Coples job as the RUSH means he's somehow not going to be going forward the vast majority of the time. That's the job of the RUSH, he's an on-the-LOS LB who is essentially nothing more than a standing defensive end. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100  This is the complete opposite of your original post on this subject. 

Brendan
Brendan

@jake100  Jesus, you're already starting this nonsense up again? 


Last year, Coples dropped into coverage less often than Sheldon Richardson. All he is, is a stand-up defensive end. The RUSH isn't a conventional LB, so talking about conventional linebackers is pointless. 

Marcus Armstrong
Marcus Armstrong

@jake100  No, he really doesn't struggle at setting the edge. Not even a little, actually. And we can't put a "conventional OLB" there, because it's not a "conventional OLB" position... He does a lot of inside stunts and things of that nature.


I'll fully admit we need another LB, but not to replace Coples—to replace Pace.